Raked stance?

GooberMT
01-13-2009, 11:05 PM
So I had a wild thought, and thought it would be bad ass and all to do on the CSRT4.

I was thinking about dropping the front end, while leaving the rear stock. I think the CSRT4 would look so damn aggresive that way. :bigthumb:

What do you folks think?

Gabriel

tomzeek
01-14-2009, 12:32 AM
a shackled up caliber? somebody please photoshop this i would like to see how it looks too. i dont have any photo programs or i would try

hemicanucksfan
01-15-2009, 07:38 PM
i love the raked look. i'd say go for it, but don't make it too extreme. maybe only 1/2 - 3/4" difference.

slick
01-15-2009, 07:43 PM
If you can trick some dumbass into thinking that lowering only the back of his caliber would be cool, you can split the eibach kit with him and get the front springs for yourself for 100 bucks.

MacOne
01-15-2009, 07:48 PM
i think its dumb and would look horrible..........around here you only see cheap ass hmong people doing that.

robdgaf
01-15-2009, 08:16 PM
if i have time ill adjust my coilovers to droped 2.50in in the front and .50in in the back.but i dont think it would look to cool

HIGHBRED8
01-15-2009, 09:34 PM
this may just be me but this car already has traction issues. increasing the room for weight transfer to the rear seems kinda counter productive imo.

everybody talked so much sht to the guy who said he wanted to go with a staggered wheel setup on a fwd. at least staggered wheels wont make traction worse.

not trying to be a dck or anything just speaking my honest opinion.

Kevin_ACR
01-15-2009, 10:02 PM
I think rakes look awful. I hated that the neon had a built in rake that you could not get rid of.

MacOne
01-16-2009, 08:16 AM
I think rakes look awful. I hated that the neon had a built in rake that you could not get rid of.

yeha i noticed that and i always hated it!

GreaseMonkey
01-16-2009, 08:20 AM
Rake is only for choppers and drag cars. Our car already has about a half inch difference between the front and rear. Much more would just not look right.

gsjoe
01-16-2009, 09:14 AM
It does seem to have just the right amount now. One could put 18" DRs on the front for effect and traction.

Aaron@Realtune
01-16-2009, 09:22 AM
i think its dumb and would look horrible..........around here you only see cheap ass hmong people doing that.



If I wouldnt have seen Gran Turino a week ago, I wouldnt have any clue what your talking about.

I also notice your from Michigan

whoosh@Realtune
01-16-2009, 09:31 AM
I'm having flashbacks of a Chevy NOVA jacked up in the back using extended shackles and a set of hijacker air shocks
I think there was a set of bright yellow Lakewood traction bars under there as well
yikes!

low and level owns

JMCSRT4
01-16-2009, 10:00 AM
I like when they do it with different sized wheels - front to back, like they do on the Crossfire, but that is an expensive proposition. I wouldn't do it with springs though.

gsxr7racer
01-16-2009, 06:45 PM
this may just be me but this car already has traction issues. increasing the room for weight transfer to the rear seems kinda counter productive imo.

I think the rake thing would suck as well but I am thinking that you are backwards on this point. If you drop the front and leave the rear the front can't come up and transfer weight to the back so I think raking it forward would actually give you more traction... or am I on crack? I am pretty sure that's how it would work anyways.

HIGHBRED8
01-17-2009, 01:48 AM
I think the rake thing would suck as well but I am thinking that you are backwards on this point. If you drop the front and leave the rear the front can't come up and transfer weight to the back so I think raking it forward would actually give you more traction... or am I on crack? I am pretty sure that's how it would work anyways.

rwd muscle cars have done the raked thing for ever, thats where it started. reason behind it is with softer suspension in the rear under acceleration the front would lift and the back would have lots of space for it to absorb all that weight transfer. that way all the weight got shifted to the back wheels to get better traction. on a fwd car semi soft front and stiff rear works best. raking a fwd would allow all the weight to transfer off the front wheels where it needs to be and onto the back wheels where it does nothing.

icemanthrilla
01-17-2009, 10:47 AM
Maybe its just mine, but doesnt it already have it? its not greatly obvious but it is there.

I wouldnt do it, but you never know it might actually look cool although as previously stated, it would hurt u in the acceleration dept. weight transfer to the rear wheels would be ftl!

icemanthrilla
01-17-2009, 10:48 AM
by the way i hated it in the nsrt. even when it was dropped it still kept it. oh well.

gsxr7racer
01-17-2009, 04:22 PM
rwd muscle cars have done the raked thing for ever, thats where it started. reason behind it is with softer suspension in the rear under acceleration the front would lift and the back would have lots of space for it to absorb all that weight transfer. that way all the weight got shifted to the back wheels to get better traction. on a fwd car semi soft front and stiff rear works best. raking a fwd would allow all the weight to transfer off the front wheels where it needs to be and onto the back wheels where it does nothing.

Yes, with the suspension set up that way I understand why it's done, but with stock suspension I think it would actually give you more grip. And if you changed to stiff rear and soft front then for sure it would be better grip. Of course if you lowered the front and left the rear stock it would be stiff front/soft rear so I finally got it, you're right it would be worse grip for sure. Unless you went with coilovers then then... oh never mind it's a bad idea anyways unless you are drag racing for a living.

Lowered and level is the way to fly!! :banger:

civicdream
01-17-2009, 05:23 PM
interesting.



www.yerhotel.com/Alanya/Hampton-Inn

HIGHBRED8
01-17-2009, 05:25 PM
on coil overs you could set it up right. lowering the front some and playing with the stiffness would help. on the neon i use to set the fronts softer than the rears and play with it till i got it right.

i guess i should of worded my self better and said it will make it worse unless you make the set up specifically to improve traction. but i dont think thats what the op was getting at. what i took from it was to do it for looks, which is why i said it hurt performance. either way imo the only rwd trend that would look good on this car is a staggered wheel. but then you risk ridicule.

gsxr7racer
01-19-2009, 02:48 PM
No worries, I should read a little slower too as to fully comprehend what you were trying to say. Staggered wheels as in size of wheels from front to back or staggered in width? :jester: Personally I wouldn't do either on either on a FWD myself, I just don't think it would look any good. And the only way I could see it helping handling wise was if the rears were smaller width wise than the front as to allow some rotation in the rear. And that would look really strange, don't you think?!

UN4GTBL
01-19-2009, 07:15 PM
interesting.



www.yerhotel.com/Alanya/Hampton-Inn
did your city take over the world? so you've moved on now?

HIGHBRED8
01-19-2009, 07:22 PM
No worries, I should read a little slower too as to fully comprehend what you were trying to say. Staggered wheels as in size of wheels from front to back or staggered in width? :jester: Personally I wouldn't do either on either on a FWD myself, I just don't think it would look any good. And the only way I could see it helping handling wise was if the rears were smaller width wise than the front as to allow some rotation in the rear. And that would look really strange, don't you think?!

yeah i meant width, but either way it has no benefit on a fwd. its a trend in vw's and some other euros and imo it does look good, but its kinda pointless. and larger fronts than rears would look retarted.

did your city take over the world? so you've moved on now?

the freaking thing got me again. i keep falling for his damn links, looks like he moved out of his city and into a condo.

Mitsuwa
01-20-2009, 10:27 PM
Rake is only for choppers and drag cars. Our car already has about a half inch difference between the front and rear. Much more would just not look right.

nice award there Greasemonkey!:jester:

MacOne
02-09-2009, 10:42 PM
If I wouldnt have seen Gran Turino a week ago, I wouldnt have any clue what your talking about.

I also notice your from Michigan


thats a good movie.

slick
02-10-2009, 04:11 AM
No worries, I should read a little slower too as to fully comprehend what you were trying to say. Staggered wheels as in size of wheels from front to back or staggered in width? :jester: Personally I wouldn't do either on either on a FWD myself, I just don't think it would look any good. And the only way I could see it helping handling wise was if the rears were smaller width wise than the front as to allow some rotation in the rear. And that would look really strange, don't you think?!

when mine is converted to rwd and has 12-15 inch wides in the back and factory size up front, it's gonna RULE!!!!:banger:

I am considering having the factory wheels widened.

slick
02-10-2009, 04:14 AM
yeah i meant width, but either way it has no benefit on a fwd. its a trend in vw's and some other euros and imo it does look good, but its kinda pointless. and larger fronts than rears would look retarted.

Retarded, not retarted!

gsxr7racer
02-12-2009, 11:17 PM
when mine is converted to rwd and has 12-15 inch wides in the back and factory size up front, it's gonna RULE!!!!:banger:

I am considering having the factory wheels widened.

Oh that is going to be sweet man, post pics when you're done!! :jester:

Make sure you buy a really wild wide body kit that looks like a Testarossa too, that would be super duper slick... :banger: