Q&A Completed: Wednesday, March 15th 2005

[ekool]

The session is in progress, please post your questions only after reading the entire thread to assure your question has not already been asked and answered.

OK every one. It's time for all good little SRT engineers to go home and get some sleep so we can come back tomorrow and continue to bring you the outstanding products we've all been talking about. As always, thanks to all of you for joining us tonight and thanks for following the rules (mostly). We truly do love being out here on the forums with you. Not sure which forum we're on next month but look for the posting and we'll let you know as soon as we figure it out.

[Rallye_Caliber]

Sorry for breaking th erules and posting ahead of time but I won't be able to be on later tonight.
So as a fellow mechanical engineer and car guy, I think it is way cool for the SRT guys to be doing this, keep up the good work!

The new SRT-4 will be a 300hp FWD vehicle. Question is what was the reasoning behind not putting AWD in the vehicle? I know its not because you guys are afraid of the STi and EVO right! ;) I know you can't tell us about future plans, but was there at least discussion about AWD and its possibility in the Caliber SRT-4?

One last comment, I believe you guys need to make sure that the Caliber has the correct answer to the question: That thing got a Hemi?
Because if you guys don't then I might!
ooooh can anyone say Caliber SRT-8! :eek:

[Ironside]

Sorry for breaking th erules and posting ahead of time but I won't be able to be on later tonight.
So as a fellow mechanical engineer and car guy, I think it is way cool for the SRT guys to be doing this, keep up the good work!

The new SRT-4 will be a 300hp FWD vehicle. Question is what was the reasoning behind not putting AWD in the vehicle? I know its not because you guys are afraid of the STi and EVO right! ;) I know you can't tell us about future plans, but was there at least discussion about AWD and its possibility in the Caliber SRT-4?

One last comment, I believe you guys need to make sure that the Caliber has the correct answer to the question: That thing got a Hemi?
Because if you guys don't then I might!
ooooh can anyone say Caliber SRT-8! :eek:

They already said they decided not to make it AWD to cut down cost, to keep it AFFORDABLE, and to keep the weight down.

And of course it doesn't have a damn hemi... it's got the new 'world engine'.

As far as the FUTURE "AWD version" of the caliber, you KNOW they're going to say "cannot answer questions regarding future projects".

:confused:

[sr4tuner]

Why dont they say the I-4 has a hemi design also.
But now if they can fit an ls2 into a pontiac solstice...

[nate2010]

Why dont they say the I-4 has a hemi design also.
...
because it has a pent roof combustion chamber... not hemispherical.... it has 4 valves , not 2.... pretty much nothing in common.

[jrodsrt4]

test sdtfgfgfgfg

[mzzz]

What is the Caliber's chassis torsional stiffness in N-m/deg or lbs-ft/deg?

For reference, how does it compare to the old Neon SRT-4's torsional stiffness?

[magnum2point0]

My first question is why did Dodge drop the Neon SRT-4? Also how is the SRT-4 Caliber making 300hp stock, when the Neon SRT-4 only makes 230hp stock? The Caliber looks heavier than the Neon. Did you give the Caliber a bigger turbo or something? More forced air induction? Bigger fuel rail/injectors? Is the SRT-4 Caliber stock under the hood similar to the stage 3 Neon SRT-4?

2003 Dodge Neon R/T
AEM CAI

[jrodsrt4]

do any of the stage kits for the srt-4 void the warrenty on the engine/ car i
always here mixed replys on this?
are the stock turbos on the car built with weak oil seals inside
becasue alot of oil shows up on the tips of the car.

is there a water leak problem with the cars i have a 05 srt-4 with moon roof and
there seems to be a leak somewhare water will come in on the passenger
side under the dash when it rains alot then as i drive water comes in?

[bluev2srt]

what upgrades are planned to be availible for the srt-4 caliber? 1,2,3,? Hp figures if they are known would be great also. I would also like to know how much it weights?
thanks

[Team SRT]

Please hold off on posting your questions in this section until that time. Thanks.
Good evening to all. I see we have quite a few of you joining us already. We expect quite a turnout tonight since the introduction of the Caliber SRT4 at Chicago a couple of weeks ago. We will make every effort to keep up with the crowd but to help us out by remembering that we will not answer any questions regarding future product. Also we would ask that you limit your additional responses to our answers to just a couple so we can try and get to as many as possible. Thanks to all and here we go.

[DATfan]

I have a few questions about the recently released camber plates...

(1) Will the Mopar camber plates fit properly on a stock 2005 ACR, or are there fitment issues?

(2) Is grinding the clevis bolt hole, as specified in the SRT-4 ACR service manual update, a similar/better/worse alternative to using front camber plates?

And similarly, for the rear, would using four Mopar adjustable rear control arms be a similar/better/worse alternative to using rear camber plates?

(3) The service manual update also adds the installation of camber bolts. Why not use the regular bolts instead of the thinner camber bolts, especially now that the clevis bolt hole has been ground?

Thanks in advance!

[jrodsrt4]

do any of the stage kits for the srt-4 void the warrenty on the engine/ car i
always here mixed replys on this?
are the stock turbos on the car built with weak oil seals inside
becasue alot of oil shows up on the tips of the car.

is there a water leak problem with the cars i have a 05 srt-4 with moon roof and
there seems to be a leak somewhare water will come in on the passenger
side under the dash when it rains alot then as i drive water comes in? .

[SRT4nication]

Q: What kind of 1/4 miles times should we expect from a bone stock SRT-4 Caliber? Can you be more specific than "13s"?

Thanks, nice car guys. Caliber is gonna pwn Europe!

[DetroitWonk]

I've heard there will not be an AWD Caliber SRT. I still want one. Will one be coming out? When am I going to be able to get it? Do you take Visa, or do I need cash or certified check?

[Team SRT]

What is the Caliber's chassis torsional stiffness in N-m/deg or lbs-ft/deg?

For reference, how does it compare to the old Neon SRT-4's torsional stiffness?


We don't have the torsional stiffness numbers here with us, but it is SIGNIFICANTLY stiffer in bending and torsion than the Neon body.

[2mopar]

You guys rock, thanks for coming out again, and keep up the great work. Hoping for that Pro-Stock SRT Stratus to get some rounds in this weekend. Do you sponsor anything else besides that and the drift cars? Any plans for the Caliber next year in NHRA?

[bluev2srt]

how much does the caliber weight and will there be any stg upgrades for it?

[viperized]

How do they get 300hp out of the caliber? Is is the old SRT-4 engine modded up w/the Stage 3 kit?

[magnum2point0]

What is going to be the base price for the Caliber SRT-4? Is it in the same price range as a Neon SRT-4?

[magnum2point0]

That's what I asked Viperized.... I am really curious to know, the Caliber looks heavier than the Neon.

[FK5]

Do you intend to sell the Caliber SRT-4 in Europe? Living in Italy and I'd like one. When exactly are they supposed to be released-US/Europe?

[Team SRT]

My first question is why did Dodge drop the Neon SRT-4? Also how is the SRT-4 Caliber making 300hp stock, when the Neon SRT-4 only makes 230hp stock? The Caliber looks heavier than the Neon. Did you give the Caliber a bigger turbo or something? More forced air induction? Bigger fuel rail/injectors? Is the SRT-4 Caliber stock under the hood similar to the stage 3 Neon SRT-4?

2003 Dodge Neon R/T
AEM CAI


The Neon SRT4 was dropped because the Neon was dropped. Remember, that body was launched in 1999 as a 2000 model.

The Caliber makes 300 hp because it makes 260 ft lbs at 6000 rpms. The Caliber has an ALL NEW 2.4L World Engine. There are no interchangable parts between the Neon SRT4 engine and the Caliber SRT4 engine.

[Team SRT]

Sorry for breaking th erules and posting ahead of time but I won't be able to be on later tonight.
So as a fellow mechanical engineer and car guy, I think it is way cool for the SRT guys to be doing this, keep up the good work!

The new SRT-4 will be a 300hp FWD vehicle. Question is what was the reasoning behind not putting AWD in the vehicle? I know its not because you guys are afraid of the STi and EVO right! ;) I know you can't tell us about future plans, but was there at least discussion about AWD and its possibility in the Caliber SRT-4?

One last comment, I believe you guys need to make sure that the Caliber has the correct answer to the question: That thing got a Hemi?
Because if you guys don't then I might!
ooooh can anyone say Caliber SRT-8! :eek:


Take a look at Ironsides answer. It pretty much hits the nail on the head....

[Team SRT]

How do they get 300hp out of the caliber? Is is the old SRT-4 engine modded up w/the Stage 3 kit?

No, it is not the old engine. It is the all new world engine:D , 2.4 liter, 300hp........so have fun

[Boy Blunder]

Can we expect the caliber srt4 by the end of this year?

Will it require 91 or 93 octane?

How much power can the stock drivetrain handle, especially the clutch and trans on sticky tires?

[Team SRT]

what upgrades are planned to be availible for the srt-4 caliber? 1,2,3,? Hp figures if they are known would be great also. I would also like to know how much it weights?
thanks

We appreciate your interest, but we don't comment on future development! Caliber SRT4 will be 300hp, and it weighs about 3200 lbs (depending on option content).

[Lord Plye Wood]

Was the decision not to offer AWD in the SRT-4 Caliber part of a "non-competitive" agreement between Mitsubishi and Daimler/Chrysler, to avoid the possibility of draining sales from the upcoming Mitsubishi EVO X?

[Team SRT]

I've heard there will not be an AWD Caliber SRT. I still want one. Will one be coming out? When am I going to be able to get it? Do you take Visa, or do I need cash or certified check?
We appreciate your interest in an AWD Caliber SRT4 (duly noted), but can't comment on future product plans. I know from experience that dealerships prefer certified checks, but the one I dealt with also took VISA for the down payment.

[magnum2point0]

My 2003 Neon R/T weighs approx 2700 fully loaded. So the Caliber is indeed heavier. I am just curious about the technology behind the new "world engine".

[Lord Plye Wood]

Is the new Mitsubishi developed and manufactured 2.4 liter, 300 hp motor in the Caliber SRT-4 the same 300 hp motor that will be the engine in the new Mitsubishi EVO X?

[mzzz]

thanks Team SRT, good to hear about the stiffer frame.

Are there any plans (that you know of or have authority to comment on) of a 'stripped down' i.e. lighter weight version of the Caliber SRT-4 aka WRX TR or Evo RS?

[Team SRT]

Do you intend to sell the Caliber SRT-4 in Europe? Living in Italy and I'd like one. When exactly are they supposed to be released-US/Europe?


Currently the SRT4 has only been announced for the US. It is a "World Engine" however.

[Team SRT]

Q: What kind of 1/4 miles times should we expect from a bone stock SRT-4 Caliber? Can you be more specific than "13s"?

Thanks, nice car guys. Caliber is gonna pwn Europe!


As you might imagine performance numbers are closely guarded secrets......therefore you'll have to wait for the rag reviews. You're not far off

[Team SRT]

thanks Team SRT, good to hear about the stiffer frame.

Are there any plans (that you know of or have authority to comment on) of a 'stripped down' i.e. lighter weight version of the Caliber SRT-4 aka WRX TR or Evo RS?

Sorry can't comment on future product - not a bad idea however.

[Team SRT]

How do they get 300hp out of the caliber? Is is the old SRT-4 engine modded up w/the Stage 3 kit?

The Caliber SRT4 engine is an all new alunimum block, DOHC cylinder head with variable valve train. It has an improved induction system and intercooler for better inlet breathing and a more open exhaust, alla reduced back pressure. Yes it has larger injectors and it has a better breathing turbo.

[erok]

What U.S. vehicles are your main competition for the Caliber SRT4?

Also will we see a six-speed tranny?

Sorry if that second part is too "future vehicle" for you. Thanks for being here.

[Persicutor]

Hi, i have the following questions:

1)according to sport compact car, the srt-4 has a relatively short connecting rod for such a long stroke. what are the advantages of a shorter conrod?

2)roughly how many hrs did it take to build each srt-4? what about for a regular neon?

3)to be an srt engineer, do you need a masters degree?

[REVO]

Hi TeamSRT, thanks for the session!

Will the new Caliber SRT-4 include traction ctrl to help with wheel spining?
Any other similar measures?
If the trans will have an LSD, will it be Quaife's or a disc-type unit?
Last one: the Caliber's body seems to be taller than the Neon's; do you have info on the center of gravity, measures the car will implement to ctrl body-roll, etc?

As a suggestion, wouldn't be great if you would go ahead and point out whatever you think we car freaks would love to know when the questions start being boring / same?

Thanks again!!!
Andrés Collazos
:)

[DATfan]

Can you confirm that the stock spring rates for a 2005 ACR are 170 lb. front and 125 lb. rear (not 120 lb. rear)?

[Team SRT]

Can we expect the caliber srt4 by the end of this year?

Will it require 91 or 93 octane?

How much power can the stock drivetrain handle, especially the clutch and trans on sticky tires?


The SRT4 Caliber it will not be available until spring 2007.

It can run on 91 octane.

The SRT4 drivetrain is different from the stock Caliber drive train. The SRT4 drivetrain will manage 300 ft-lbs of torque.

[Team SRT]

I have a few questions about the recently released camber plates...

(1) Will the Mopar camber plates fit properly on a stock 2005 ACR, or are there fitment issues?

(2) Is grinding the clevis bolt hole, as specified in the SRT-4 ACR service manual update, a similar/better/worse alternative to using front camber plates?

And similarly, for the rear, would using four Mopar adjustable rear control arms be a similar/better/worse alternative to using rear camber plates?

(3) The service manual update also adds the installation of camber bolts. Why not use the regular bolts instead of the thinner camber bolts, especially now that the clevis bolt hole has been ground?

Thanks in advance!

Yes, Mopar camber plates (P4510828 front, P4510827 rear) will fit the SRT4.
Grinding the clevis hole is a service alternative to meet stock autocrossing rules and still get a desirable racing alignment.

Camber plates are a better alternative, for a couple of reasons. One, you don't reduce tire clearance to the strut tube with camber plates. Two, you move the steering axis outboard when you increase negative camber with a camber plate, which helps keep the scrub radius manageable with wider than stock wheels and tires that are farther outboard. Three, it is much easier to make precise camber adjustments quickly with camber plates.

The camber bolts are no thinner than the stock bolts. They just don't have the knurling on them.

The adjustable rear lateral links allow more toe adjustment than the stock ones. You can use either to set camber. If it were my racecar, I'd use both on the rear for adjustability.

[Team SRT]

Is the new Mitsubishi developed and manufactured 2.4 liter, 300 hp motor in the Caliber SRT-4 the same 300 hp motor that will be the engine in the new Mitsubishi EVO X?

No, Mitsubishi's engine is a 2.0L and is significantly different. The new engine is not Mitsubishi developed, it has been developed out of the new Global Engine Alliance plant in Dundee, Mi.

[Dan SS2471]

**EDIT** Just saw an email from the moderator that this will be a Caliber related Q&A. If you have the time to field this one, fine. Otherwise I understand if you don't. Thanks..... **EDIT**

Thanks very much for taking the time out to come on here and field questions from DCX's customers. I've had my 300C SRT-8 since January and it's hands down the best performing, handling, and optioned vehicle I've ever owned. Kudos to the SRT team for another phenomenal product.

I don't believe this is an SRT model specific Q&A so I wanted to ask a question about the brake squeal/ grooved rotor / dust issue on the 300C SRT-8. And a follow up as to whether or not a 'fix' for the 1-2 shift hesitation has been discussed.

At the last meet and greet, an engineer indicated that the brake fix is well in the works and that 'we were going to like it'. I very much enjoy the performance of the Brembo system and I can honestly say that I've never had an issue with sqealing. I do have minor rotor grooving which I think is acceptable. What I really have an issue with is the inordanant amount of brake dust. This is a real inconvenience when you spend hours detailing the vehicle and painstakingly cleaning the wheels inside and out. They look great afterwards but no more than 10 miles of driving (normal, not even spirited) will yield a noticeable coat of brake dust. Being one of the mindset that you don't just 'wipe off' brake dust with some type of cleaner, I typically wait until I wash the entire car to do the rims again. This means that the car's exterior finish can look clean for 1 - 2 weeks, but the rims are black with brake dust after a couple of days. Do the engineers know if the fix in the works addresses this as well as the sqealing / grooving?

With regard to the 1 - 2 shift hesitation, some have had a flash done depending on when their car was built. There is a TSB out for it (sorry, I don't know the # off the top of my head). Some say it worked, most say it didn't. My car does not qualify based on build date because the version of the software in it supposedly has the hesitation addressed. Simply not true. The car consistently hits the rev limiter before shifting and sputters beforehand as well. This is with ESP on, ESP off (2nd position) and ESP totally disabled (3rd position). Some have seem to have gotten around it by using the Autostick but this is only accomplished by shifting at least 500 RPMs before redline so the computer catches up with your shift and actually shifts the tranny before hitting the limiter. There is an aftermarket system which addresses this, but I'm waiting to hear back from DCX as I don't want to risk voiding my warranty over something that in my opinion should be addressed by the manufacturer.

Hope I'm not coming off as a whiner. I know there are many others besides me who would like to know these answers and just like myself love this car nonetheless!! Any replies are appreciated in advance.

Thanks,

Dan M.
2006 300 SRT-8
SRT I / II
Sunroof
Kicker

[ekool]

A user sent me this PM and asked me to post it as he would be unable to attend:


1. Would the Caliber SRT wheels fit the Neon SRT4?
2. I have had my Throttle Position Sensor and Wiring Harness replaced three times in the last 3 months. At random the throttle will stick at 3-4000 RPM's and not fall back down.

Is there anything else that could be causing this problem aside from the two items the STAR system has been suggesting to replace???

[DATfan]

Yes, Mopar camber plates (P4510828 front, P4510827 rear) will fit the SRT4.

Howabout a stock ACR?

[magnum2point0]

Is Mopar going to be in charge of parts as they are in the current Neons?

[Team SRT]

do any of the stage kits for the srt-4 void the warrenty on the engine/ car i
always here mixed replys on this?
are the stock turbos on the car built with weak oil seals inside
becasue alot of oil shows up on the tips of the car.

is there a water leak problem with the cars i have a 05 srt-4 with moon roof and
there seems to be a leak somewhare water will come in on the passenger
side under the dash when it rains alot then as i drive water comes in?
The lawyers will insist that I direct you to the Warranty information in the catalog or that's posted on www.mopar.com (http://www.mopar.com). But we don't leave you out in the cold. If you have an issue contact the Tech Line at 1-888-528-HEMI

As for the oil seals, no the seals aren't the issue. We'd suggest visiting your dealer for a leakdown test

On the waterleak, you've got drain tubes running down the pillars that sometimes get clogged. You'll see the holes in the trough. Get some fine wire and make sure they're clear.

[Team SRT]

What U.S. vehicles are your main competition for the Caliber SRT4?

Also will we see a six-speed tranny?

Sorry if that second part is too "future vehicle" for you. Thanks for being here.


To be quiet honest, there is no competition for the SRT4:cool:
The tranny??? Yes, there will be a six-speed manual....

[u81i812usa]

I have an '05 SRT-4 and the only thing I don't like about it is that everytime you get on it out of the hole you get axel breaking wheel hopping, has that issue been corrected in the Caliber version or is it worse with 300 hp to the front wheels?

[ekool]

My question is in regards to a potential AWD version. I know DCX did some research as to possibly doing an AWD SRT4 version, but has at this time decided against it.

What was the reasoning behind the decision not to offer an AWD version, and will this be re-looked at down the road for a potential AWD version offered a couple of years down the road?

[courier11sec]

I'd like to know what methods you've employed to combat torque steer.

[DATfan]

The camber bolts are no thinner than the stock bolts. They just don't have the knurling on them.

The adjustable rear lateral links allow more toe adjustment than the stock ones. You can use either to set camber. If it were my racecar, I'd use both on the rear for adjustability.

Thanks! I have 2 followups-- I have heard of the camber bolts slipping. Since we already have the camber from the larger clevis hole, do you need the camber bolts?

And just to be clear, you're saying you'd have both rear camber plates and the adjustable links, right?

[magnum2point0]

u81 I get the same wheel hopping out of the hole with my '03 R/T. Is the Caliber equipt to handle this flaw?

[Team SRT]

Is Mopar going to be in charge of parts as they are in the current Neons?

Yes, but can't give details yet - watch this space

[jrodsrt4]

the mopar cat back for the srt-4 what kind of gains do you get on for say mine with stage 1. would it be better to go with the cat back from mopar or some other company with 3". just woundering thanks

[Team SRT]

You guys rock, thanks for coming out again, and keep up the great work. Hoping for that Pro-Stock SRT Stratus to get some rounds in this weekend. Do you sponsor anything else besides that and the drift cars? Any plans for the Caliber next year in NHRA?

Yep, we do as well. Sounds like you are a straight line fan, so we won't mention the roundy-round stuff. As for next year, let's take it on season at a time .......

[Team SRT]

A user sent me this PM and asked me to post it as he would be unable to attend:

No, the PM SRT wheels will not fit the Neon SRT. The bolt pattern is different. With regards to your Tach hang at 3 - 4000rpm, without further information, it would be difficult to diagnose over the web....

[jrodsrt4]

what would be the best way that the srt team would stop or reduce wheel hop alot on a srt-4

[Team SRT]

Hi, i have the following questions:

1)according to sport compact car, the srt-4 has a relatively short connecting rod for such a long stroke. what are the advantages of a shorter conrod?

2)roughly how many hrs did it take to build each srt-4? what about for a regular neon?

3)to be an srt engineer, do you need a masters degree?


Not all of us have masters degrees. Being a crazy gearhead is a much bigger help.

We've noticed that a short rod usually results in owning a big boat!

[Team SRT]

My 2003 Neon R/T weighs approx 2700 fully loaded. So the Caliber is indeed heavier. I am just curious about the technology behind the new "world engine".

Aluminum block, new DOHC cylinder head with dual Variable valve train, larger turbo , intercooler and higher flowing exhaust. It also has a higher compression ratio for improved fuel economy, yes it is ligher, and will be rated at 300 HP.

[Team SRT]

Hi TeamSRT, thanks for the session!

Will the new Caliber SRT-4 include traction ctrl to help with wheel spining?
Any other similar measures?
If the trans will have an LSD, will it be Quaife's or a disc-type unit?
Last one: the Caliber's body seems to be taller than the Neon's; do you have info on the center of gravity, measures the car will implement to ctrl body-roll, etc?

As a suggestion, wouldn't be great if you would go ahead and point out whatever you think we car freaks would love to know when the questions start being boring / same?

Thanks again!!!
Andrés Collazos


:)

Traction control will be standard. The diff brand is Torsen. The cg data is classified as a matter of SOP.

We're happy to answer the questions especially from the gearheads...you guys are us guys......

[Vision67]

Will the turbo boost control system increase boost as a function of altitude? i.e. will I be able to achieve sea level power at 10,000 feet above seal level?

[Team SRT]

My question is in regards to a potential AWD version. I know DCX did some research as to possibly doing an AWD SRT4 version, but has at this time decided against it.

What was the reasoning behind the decision not to offer an AWD version, and will this be re-looked at down the road for a potential AWD version offered a couple of years down the road?

See prior posts......

[magnum2point0]

You guys are doing a great job answering questions. Here is another. My 2003 Neon R/T came fully loaded with everything the Neon had to offer that year besides turbo. I have only front electrical windows. They only offered front. The back are crank. Will the Caliber have more electronics in interrior design?

[erok]

The biggest gripe from the auto critics about the Neon SRT4 was that it is a straight-line rocket, but isn't a hero in the twisties. What kind of suspension parts does the Caliber SRT4 have to brag about?

[Team SRT]

What is going to be the base price for the Caliber SRT-4? Is it in the same price range as a Neon SRT-4?

Can't talk pricing yet as the car isn't out until Spring '07, but we are still planning on nailing the bang for buck equation.

[Team SRT]

Howabout a stock ACR?

The strut tower geometry is the same on all 2nd gen Neons.

Remember, though, that the '01-'02 ACR uses inverted struts, so the jounce bumper loads go up through the strut shaft. On a non-inverted strut, the jounce bumper loads are reacted on the strut mount outer metal.

[Team SRT]

the mopar cat back for the srt-4 what kind of gains do you get on for say mine with stage 1. would it be better to go with the cat back from mopar or some other company with 3". just woundering thanks

10-15 would not be unexpected gain for catback. And yes, I think you'd want to stick with the Mopar system. We've found in testing that larger isn't always better. Also, you might want to think about Cold Air Intake. It's the best bang for the buck upgrade.

[cormikeday]

just a curiousity question, will standard Neon SRT-4 wheels fit on the Neon SRT-4 ACR package, or will the rim and tire size affect not allow it?

[Team SRT]

I'd like to know what methods you've employed to combat torque steer.

On the risk that you work for one of our competitors, we're not going to go there. Trust us, we have quite a bit of expertise around here with regard to torque steer.

[Team SRT]

**EDIT** Just saw an email from the moderator that this will be a Caliber related Q&A. If you have the time to field this one, fine. Otherwise I understand if you don't. Thanks..... **EDIT**

Thanks very much for taking the time out to come on here and field questions from DCX's customers. I've had my 300C SRT-8 since January and it's hands down the best performing, handling, and optioned vehicle I've ever owned. Kudos to the SRT team for another phenomenal product.

I don't believe this is an SRT model specific Q&A so I wanted to ask a question about the brake squeal/ grooved rotor / dust issue on the 300C SRT-8. And a follow up as to whether or not a 'fix' for the 1-2 shift hesitation has been discussed.

At the last meet and greet, an engineer indicated that the brake fix is well in the works and that 'we were going to like it'. I very much enjoy the performance of the Brembo system and I can honestly say that I've never had an issue with sqealing. I do have minor rotor grooving which I think is acceptable. What I really have an issue with is the inordanant amount of brake dust. This is a real inconvenience when you spend hours detailing the vehicle and painstakingly cleaning the wheels inside and out. They look great afterwards but no more than 10 miles of driving (normal, not even spirited) will yield a noticeable coat of brake dust. Being one of the mindset that you don't just 'wipe off' brake dust with some type of cleaner, I typically wait until I wash the entire car to do the rims again. This means that the car's exterior finish can look clean for 1 - 2 weeks, but the rims are black with brake dust after a couple of days. Do the engineers know if the fix in the works addresses this as well as the sqealing / grooving?

With regard to the 1 - 2 shift hesitation, some have had a flash done depending on when their car was built. There is a TSB out for it (sorry, I don't know the # off the top of my head). Some say it worked, most say it didn't. My car does not qualify based on build date because the version of the software in it supposedly has the hesitation addressed. Simply not true. The car consistently hits the rev limiter before shifting and sputters beforehand as well. This is with ESP on, ESP off (2nd position) and ESP totally disabled (3rd position). Some have seem to have gotten around it by using the Autostick but this is only accomplished by shifting at least 500 RPMs before redline so the computer catches up with your shift and actually shifts the tranny before hitting the limiter. There is an aftermarket system which addresses this, but I'm waiting to hear back from DCX as I don't want to risk voiding my warranty over something that in my opinion should be addressed by the manufacturer.

Hope I'm not coming off as a whiner. I know there are many others besides me who would like to know these answers and just like myself love this car nonetheless!! Any replies are appreciated in advance.

Thanks,

Dan M.
2006 300 SRT-8
SRT I / II
Sunroof
Kicker

You're right....tonight we're keying on the Caliber. I'm the guy who answered you last month. Hang in there...we want to make sure that what goes out for the fix kills the deal dead....we'll probably be back to 300's next month...

[Team SRT]

Will the turbo boost control system increase boost as a function of altitude? i.e. will I be able to achieve sea level power at 10,000 feet above seal level?

The boost control system will maintain torque in Denver and we're on our way to Pikes Peak.

[Team SRT]

Yes, the stock SRT-4 ACR springs are actually 170 lbs (front) and 125 lbs (rear).

[jrodsrt4]

i like the cold air intake i just always hear from people that they get hydro lock from cold air intakes and i do not want to screw up this sweet ride that you guys made its amazing. should i worry about water with the mopar cold air intake thanks

[ekool]

The boost control system will maintain torque in Denver and we're on our way to Pikes Peak.

I can attest to the boost control system the SRT team has put in place, even on the SRT-4 -- my car made the same power at 1200 ft. elevation as it does at 4800 ft. elevation. Same MPH through the traps, etc. Very impressive.

[REVO]

Hello again,
Great stamina and rythm answering Qs... thanks!

Any additional info on suspension details, tire width, strut bars, panhards, and other related stuff for those of us NOT focused on straight line performance?

Will there be a Stages 1 ~ 3 program?

Thanks once more!
Andrés Collazos
:)

[courier11sec]

On the risk that you work for one of our competitors, we're not going to go there. Trust us, we have quite a bit of expertise around here with regard to torque steer.
I don't work for a competitor, but I can understand your concern. The reason I asked is that I test drove the current Caliber last week and torque steer was noticeable even with the anemic 2.0 and CVT. My concern is that the addition of some actual power is going to make for a wild ride.

[magnum2point0]

I don't think these guys want to answer Neon modification questions. They are trying to pitch the Caliber.

[Team SRT]

Thanks! I have 2 followups-- I have heard of the camber bolts slipping. Since we already have the camber from the larger clevis hole, do you need the camber bolts?

And just to be clear, you're saying you'd have both rear camber plates and the adjustable links, right?

If the camber bolts are slipping, they may not be torqued enough. You can also overtorque them and stretch the bolt, making a bad joint. The most you can torque the fastener is about 150 ft-lbs. You can also make quarter moon shaped shimms that fill in the slot to keep the joint from moving much if it slips.

The knurling gets in the way of the slot, and if you grind it off, you are grinding away some of the case hardening of the bolt.

Mopar does not sell adjustable rear lateral links. We do sell rear camber plates.

[cormikeday]

when the Caliber SRT is released are there any plans for stage kits or packages such as the ACR for this SRT like there was for the Neon SRT-4?

[Team SRT]

just a curiousity question, will standard Neon SRT-4 wheels fit on the Neon SRT-4 ACR package, or will the rim and tire size affect not allow it?

The speedo is calibrated to the smaller wheels and tires. You can put the bigger ones on, but don't wonder if the cops arrest you for driving 70 mph in a 45 mph area....when you are looking like this:confused:

[Team SRT]

i like the cold air intake i just always hear from people that they get hydro lock from cold air intakes and i do not want to screw up this sweet ride that you guys made its amazing. should i worry about water with the mopar cold air intake thanks

We have not heard of any hydro lock problems with the Mopar cold air intakes.

[Team SRT]

You guys are doing a great job answering questions. Here is another. My 2003 Neon R/T came fully loaded with everything the Neon had to offer that year besides turbo. I have only front electrical windows. They only offered front. The back are crank. Will the Caliber have more electronics in interrior design?

Power windows, front and back, will be available. The Caliber SRT4 will also offer available power locks, illuminated cup holders, premium sound system with articulating speakers on the hatch, a cooled section of the glove box...the website for the new Caliber (www.Dodge.com (http://www.Dodge.com)) can give you a lot more detail as well.

[daaboots]

A bit off topic, but why didn't the PT Cruiser 2.4 Turbo model ever received the "SRT" name? And what role did the SRT team play in the development of the PT Turbo?

[Team SRT]

The biggest gripe from the auto critics about the Neon SRT4 was that it is a straight-line rocket, but isn't a hero in the twisties. What kind of suspension parts does the Caliber SRT4 have to brag about?

No magic here. Just good old fashion engineering blending together the right springs,bars and bushings. The SRT 4 will be great through the twisties.

[Team SRT]

when the Caliber SRT is released are there any plans for stage kits or packages such as the ACR for this SRT like there was for the Neon SRT-4?

Kits are in process, stay tuned.

[ryanlasher]

what is up with the rumors that that caliber will infact be rear wheel drive? I know all the press stuff says FWD but i have been hearing that it might be rear wheel drive and that dodge just wants to keep it underwraps untill closer to the launch date. Can you 100% say that the srt4 will infact be fwd only?
Ryan

[rapidtransitsystemguy]

Not all of us have masters degrees. Being a crazy gearhead is a much bigger help.

We've noticed that a short rod usually results in owning a big boat!
I would point out that a long stroke/short rod combination tends not to let the piston stay straight in the cylinder bore (causes the piston to rock), especially under high load and/or RPM, which creates more friction between the piston and cylinder wall, and most importantly, decreases the ability for the rings to seal in the cylinder, resulting in a lack of power.
Keep up the good work Team SRT!

[Team SRT]

Was the decision not to offer AWD in the SRT-4 Caliber part of a "non-competitive" agreement between Mitsubishi and Daimler/Chrysler, to avoid the possibility of draining sales from the upcoming Mitsubishi EVO X?

No, MMC's plans had no bearing on our decision.

[u81i812usa]

does the prototype smoke the tires or do they hop?

[Vadn1]

Will the 6 speed tranny fit the SRT4 (NEON) and will it be sold as retail as a unit?

[crewzen]

How have you addressed the wheel hop, this to you may seem trivial but when driving on wet roads and you try to accelerate and hop hop is no fun.

I know my SRT-4 is terrible about this, I hope that this new Caliber is much better than my SRT-4. No Im not only a straight line person.

Wheel hop control is needed.:D :eek: :cool:

[Team SRT]

I don't think these guys want to answer Neon modification questions. They are trying to pitch the Caliber.

We don't mind Neon questions at all. We will be back on SRT4 Forums soon!

[Team SRT]

what would be the best way that the srt team would stop or reduce wheel hop alot on a srt-4

You might want to try some Prothane Motor Mount Inserts. We've tried them with some success.

[Vadn1]

hey man its just a Q? will the tranny fit ?

[erok]

I liked the question about master's degrees. Can we hear some advice for us college types who would like to get in with an in-house tuner like SRT or AMG? Any clubs/extra curriculars you recommend? Amateur racing experience? Do any of you have non-traditional degrees for the work you're now doing?

[jrodsrt4]

i saw the srt-8 charger in person the other day guys you did a great job wish i could afford it sure dodge will lend me the money but the payments would be a killer so i will stay with your pocket rocket you all made the srt-4. one more q? what is the yellow pull like tab thats around the fuse for the odemter and radio/ int. light in the central fuse box under the hood thanks

[Team SRT]

Will the 6 speed tranny fit the SRT4 (NEON) and will it be sold as retail as a unit?

Not really. The Neon SRT4 has a completely different engine back of block.

[Team SRT]

Hello again,
Great stamina and rythm answering Qs... thanks!

Any additional info on suspension details, tire width, strut bars, panhards, and other related stuff for those of us NOT focused on straight line performance?

Will there be a Stages 1 ~ 3 program?

Thanks once more!
Andrés Collazos
:)

The rims are 19X7.5. The tires are 225/45R19. The suspension calibration isn't finalized, yet, but it is coming along well.

[Team SRT]

does the prototype smoke the tires or do they hop?


the tires are smoking ...........whooowww it's foggy here!!!!!!:cool:

[Vadn1]

sorry for being mean but I have $22,000 in my SRT(NEON) and I blew another tranny also I topped out @ 292km/h I wanted to know before I went out and baught another 5 speed. thanks By the way thats Canadian dollars.

[Team SRT]

Will the 6 speed tranny fit the SRT4 (NEON) and will it be sold as retail as a unit?

The back of the block between the two engines are completely different.

[Team SRT]

just a curiousity question, will standard Neon SRT-4 wheels fit on the Neon SRT-4 ACR package, or will the rim and tire size affect not allow it? On the SRT-4 ACR package we lowered the ride height by both lowering the spring perches and using smaller diameter tires. The lowered spring perches will rub the inside corner of the 205/50R17 standard SRT-4 wheel/tire combo.

[phrozen]

Can you describe more about the VVT system? Is it a one-shot deal where it changes valve timing at some set RPM, or is it continuous.

Can you also describe more about how the CVT works? I know it isn't available on the SRT caliber, but it is on the R/T, right? Plus with AWD... A very interesting combination.

[Ryan @ Dark Syde Racing]

Hello Team SRT,

As the owner of Dark Syde Performance in fairbanks AK, I have run into some issues with the cold and performance in the cold (we are talking -30 to -50) I am planning on picking up a caliber SRT when they hit the lots (already have my dealer/sponsor ready when they are released). my question will pertain to the oil cooler setup currently used on the SRT-4. I have done some of my own R&D on this setup and I have found that the placement of the factory cooler (which I needed to reroute) is prone to losing the deflecter and able to sustain a heavy amount of road debris which in the end has damaged the cooler core (I have seen this on 4 local SRT's as well). I was wondering if your platform will keep the oil cooler in the same location or if it will be infact routed towards the front of the vehicle possibly behind the FMIC and in front of the radiator. Also another issue I have witnessed first hand on the srt-4 that concerns me is the placement of the radiator overflow bottle. With alot of customers going big turbo or putting aftermarket parts on that increase EG Temps, has there been any other thoughts of possibly moving that bottle from the factory? Lastly will the caliber be built with a fuel rail that has a schrader valve?

[magnum2point0]

You keep saying that the Neon parts engine wise will not be compatable with the Caliber. My question is, are any other cars (maybe Japanese) compatable? Are you guys leaning Mitsu again?

[cormikeday]

ok is there a purpose to the black rubber/plastic piece that is directly under the front fascia of the car, the one that sticks down a good inch. is it mainly a "hey dumby don't keep driving or your gonna hit the curb, or does it have any of "function"? I only ask because some cars have them already installed on purchase and some have them not installed.

[Team SRT]

i saw the srt-8 charger in person the other day guys you did a great job wish i could afford it sure dodge will lend me the money but the payments would be a killer so i will stay with your pocket rocket you all made the srt-4. one more q? what is the yellow pull like tab thats around the fuse for the odemter and radio/ int. light in the central fuse box under the hood thanks

The "yellow pull like tab" is the Ignition Off Draw fuse in the Neon SRT4, and is used by the plant to reduce the battery draw while shipping. There should be no reason to mess with this fuse after the vehicle has shipped from the plant.

[Corpseoftheyear]

Hey there, I am a fan of both the Neon SRT-4 and the Caliber SRT-4, but I had a problem with the Neon that was keeping me from buying it, which was that it didn't have Cruise control, so my question is this:

Will the Caliber SRT-4 have cruise control?

Thank you for your time.

John H.

[Team SRT]

I liked the question about master's degrees. Can we hear some advice for us college types who would like to get in with an in-house tuner like SRT or AMG? Any clubs/extra curriculars you recommend? Amateur racing experience? Do any of you have non-traditional degrees for the work you're now doing?

You pretty much have to be a true car guy. An engineering degree is required, but masters a bonus. SAE College Design Series is pretty recognized here and does get a bit of exposure with Chrysler and other automotive groups. And it's not true that your liscense has to have been suspended more than once.

[Team SRT]

I liked the question about master's degrees. Can we hear some advice for us college types who would like to get in with an in-house tuner like SRT or AMG? Any clubs/extra curriculars you recommend? Amateur racing experience? Do any of you have non-traditional degrees for the work you're now doing?


Forget all about the university and the master degree and boring classes........to work here you just have to pass 1 big test. If you wanna know more about that, let me know. I am fresh out of the university, and I know what I am talking about.......

[Rambit]

...................

[Team SRT]

Hey there, I am a fan of both the Neon SRT-4 and the Caliber SRT-4, but I had a problem with the Neon that was keeping me from buying it, which was that it didn't have Cruise control, so my question is this:

Will the Caliber SRT-4 have cruise control?

Thank you for your time.

John H.

Yes, thank goodness that cruise will be available on the Caliber SRT4!

[Team SRT]

A bit off topic, but why didn't the PT Cruiser 2.4 Turbo model ever received the "SRT" name? And what role did the SRT team play in the development of the PT Turbo?

The SRT Team was so busy on the Neon and LXs that we were not able to grace the PT with the full treatment - some of our gurus did spend some time on that powertrain and suspension before they graduated to SRT.

[cormikeday]

on the Caliber SRT do you have any boost holding numbers at certain RPM's? like whats PEAK boost for the Caliber when it comes from the factory?

[Team SRT]

ok is there a purpose to the black rubber/plastic piece that is directly under the front fascia of the car, the one that sticks down a good inch. is it mainly a "hey dumby don't keep driving or your gonna hit the curb, or does it have any of "function"? I only ask because some cars have them already installed on purchase and some have them not installed.

That black rubber piece is an air dam, and provides significant assistance to Engine cooling and a healthy drag reduction. We wanted the cooling improvement / drag reduction, but were concerned about incidental contact with parking blocks and driveway approaches. This is why we made the part flexible

[magnum2point0]

Wow the SRT-4 Neon doesn't have cruise control? My '03 Neon R/T does. And it is a 5 speed.

[Team SRT]

hey man its just a Q? will the tranny fit ?

Physically it will "fit as the 6 speed is a folded gearbox but it will not match up to the engine, the half shafts will not fit, the shift system will not bolt into a Neon, and the clutch hydralics are different.

[phrozen]

Wow the SRT-4 Neon doesn't have cruise control? My '03 Neon R/T does. And it is a 5 speed.

It doesn't have cruise control, but you can add it with the dodge cruise control kit.

Unfortunately, it doesn't work with most of the stage upgrade kits.

SRTEngineers, any reason why you can't use the cruise with the stage kits?

[Team SRT]

Hello Team SRT,

As the owner of Dark Syde Performance in fairbanks AK, I have run into some issues with the cold and performance in the cold (we are talking -30 to -50) I am planning on picking up a caliber SRT when they hit the lots (already have my dealer/sponsor ready when they are released). my question will pertain to the oil cooler setup currently used on the SRT-4. I have done some of my own R&D on this setup and I have found that the placement of the factory cooler (which I needed to reroute) is prone to losing the deflecter and able to sustain a heavy amount of road debris which in the end has damaged the cooler core (I have seen this on 4 local SRT's as well). I was wondering if your platform will keep the oil cooler in the same location or if it will be infact routed towards the front of the vehicle possibly behind the FMIC and in front of the radiator. Also another issue I have witnessed first hand on the srt-4 that concerns me is the placement of the radiator overflow bottle. With alot of customers going big turbo or putting aftermarket parts on that increase EG Temps, has there been any other thoughts of possibly moving that bottle from the factory? Lastly will the caliber be built with a fuel rail that has a schrader valve?

It seems that you are talking about the Neon power steering cooler, not the oil cooler. Thanks for the reccomendations. When you look at the Caliber, you'll notice that it is a completely different car.

[erok]

Forget all about the university and the master degree and boring classes........to work here you just have to pass 1 big test. If you wanna know more about that, let me know. I am fresh out of the university, and I know what I am talking about.......


Oh you SRT people are such teases. This is me letting you know that I want to hear about the one big test. Let's have it.

[Team SRT]

what is up with the rumors that that caliber will infact be rear wheel drive? I know all the press stuff says FWD but i have been hearing that it might be rear wheel drive and that dodge just wants to keep it underwraps untill closer to the launch date. Can you 100% say that the srt4 will infact be fwd only?
Ryan

Rumors are always fun.........as we have said numerous times....the SRT 4 will be FWD

[Team SRT]

Wow the SRT-4 Neon doesn't have cruise control? My '03 Neon R/T does. And it is a 5 speed.

The Caliber SRT4 will definitely be available with cruise control. This will, in my experience, help reduce those expressway speeding tickets!

[cormikeday]

this is a question that i think you guys answered long ago but wasnt entirely clear about the answer. on the inside of the stock airbox in the SRT-4 it has the pretty circle just sitting there...almost like it was suppost to be functional but when it came time for production the idea was kicked to the side. is this circle on the inside just how the top on the airbox is made or is there more to the story???

[Team SRT]

on the Caliber SRT do you have any boost holding numbers at certain RPM's? like whats PEAK boost for the Caliber when it comes from the factory?

Peak boost is 16 psi, but it is variable based on torque control.

[Team SRT]

No brake questions for me tonight. Just wanted to say thank you to Adam Forte, DCX Manager of SRT LX Vehicle Synthesis for agreeing to come out to the LX Platform SoCal Meet & Greet 25 March in Irvine, CA. I'll be there and driving from Ontario, Canada. Do I sound excited or what? For those of you who don't know, he's the guy who transforms these cars into SRT8's!!! Of course not just him...hehe.

Rambit

Forte is our car jockey. Don't bother him tommorow, it is supposed to snow tonight and he'll be doing a lot of cleanup. Manager? That's funny.

[WSUpenguin]

ok i read earlier that the price you guys are going for is bang for the buck, will that mean about the same as then neon srt4? can you give an estimated range?

[victor]

What will the waranty be on the new Caliber SRT-4?

[Team SRT]

this is a question that i think you guys answered long ago but wasnt entirely clear about the answer. on the inside of the stock airbox in the SRT-4 it has the pretty circle just sitting there...almost like it was suppost to be functional but when it came time for production the idea was kicked to the side. is this circle on the inside just how the top on the airbox is made or is there more to the story???

What circle???

[cormikeday]

will the PT Cruiser's "Hurst Short throw" fit in the Neon SRT-4 the same way that the Mopar Short throw fits? when i mean fit, i mean fit without having to "rig" the shifter cables and such.

[Team SRT]

u81 I get the same wheel hopping out of the hole with my '03 R/T. Is the Caliber equipt to handle this flaw?

Because wheel hop is a complicated issue with many inputs no solution is 100 perfect. The Caliber SRT 4 will give a very good account of itself on this score.......

[Rooster]

Q: so how loud is the srt-4 caliber going to be..... if it was going to have the same exhaust as the current srt-4 has... ??

[erok]

What circle???


Sounds like something left over from the molding process.

[phrozen]

What circle???

That's been answered already. It was meant that you could cut it out and the hole above it to get a ram air CAI from the hood scoop.... But it isn't really worth it. It aparently didn't gain much.

[bluev2srt]

what is size or model of the turbo the caliber will get?

[Team SRT]

What will the waranty be on the new Caliber SRT-4?

All SRT's, including the Caliber, come standard with a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty.

[phrozen]

td03. same as the stock srt-4

Caliber is a high flow version of a TD04 with a reduced back pressure exhaust housing.

[cormikeday]

What circle???

when you take off the cover to the stock airbox, on the underside of the cover there is a circle just sitting there that sorta looks outta place. :confused:

[Team SRT]

ok i read earlier that the price you guys are going for is bang for the buck, will that mean about the same as then neon srt4? can you give an estimated range?

We haven't announced pricing, but yup--we're going to deliver "bang for the buck".

[Team SRT]

Q: so how loud is the srt-4 caliber going to be..... if it was going to have the same exhaust as the current srt-4 has... ??

The Caliber SRT4 will be as loud as it can legally be!

[jrodsrt4]

why was the shifter made on the srt-4 that you cant raely use any aftermarket knop on it like a threaded hurst tee handel anyways to make it work on the car please help

[Morpheus]

The Caliber makes 300 hp because it makes 260 ft lbs at 6000 rpms. The Caliber has an ALL NEW 2.4L World Engine. There are no interchangable parts between the Neon SRT4 engine and the Caliber SRT4 engine.

How much of this new engine draws off Mitsubishi's legendary 4G63? Any simularities or interchangablity of parts?

Or should I ask, who's engine was it modeled after? The A853 or the 4G63? I understand it's new, but one of the two was the starting point for the new design.

[all4srt]

Thanks for having me... Will the Calibur be offerend in a "non-hatchback" body style, something similar to that of the original SRT-4? Thanks for your time!

[WSUpenguin]

will this new world engine be able to do an engine swap with say a srt4 neon's? oh and i like the 6-speed upgrade

[crewzen]

OK so it looks like traction and hoping is still a severe problem.

So when will AWD be available, since FWD isn't too functional.

[all_bran]

I know you can't comment on future products, just wanted to mention that it would probably be a good idea for you guys to give the "SRT treatment" to a JS-type vehicle. There's such a big price gap between teh SRT4 and SRT8. Something around $28k-$32k would probably be a good idea :D

EDIT: JS is the mid-sided vehicle Stratus, Sebring, etc...

[magnum2point0]

What is top speed on the SRT-4 Caliber?

[Team SRT]

will the PT Cruiser's "Hurst Short throw" fit in the Neon SRT-4 the same way that the Mopar Short throw fits? when i mean fit, i mean fit without having to "rig" the shifter cables and such.

The mopar 4510485 kit will work on the Neon SRT4. We're not sure if the PT kit will fit the Neon SRT4. We've never tried it.

[nitehawk]

I've read somewhere that the SRT4 Caliber has the same turbocharger(TD04LR) as the srt4 neon. Can you confirm/deny this?

I think the whole SRT team has done a great job with upping the power and I can't wait to see them on the street.

[Rooster]

thank you for ansering my orginal question..
next question
will the caliber come with rear factory tinted or solar glass? like the caravans trucks etc..

[Team SRT]

Thanks for having me... Will the Calibur be offerend in a "non-hatchback" body style, something similar to that of the original SRT-4? Thanks for your time!

How can I say this....No.

[Dan SS2471]

No brake questions for me tonight.
Rambit

You know I had to Rambit. :D

[cormikeday]

The Caliber SRT4 will be as loud as it can legally be!

is there anyway you can have a "warning sticker" printed on the driver side visor when it comes from the factory that says like "warning: this car's exhaust is loud... period" so that we can show the police that it's stock when we get questioned about "modifying our exhausts? :D

[magnum2point0]

What is the rev limit on the SRT-4 Caliber?

[Team SRT]

What is top speed on the SRT-4 Caliber?

150 MPH+ You'll get poor fuel economy at those speeds, but gas is (relatively) cheap and plentiful!

[asutherl]

Any idea if Don is gonna let Doug rally one in 2007?

[Team SRT]

why was the shifter made on the srt-4 that you cant raely use any aftermarket knop on it like a threaded hurst tee handel anyways to make it work on the car please help

As you found out, there are no threads on the stick. Frankly you're on your own for that one. You could try and thread the rod if you can find a knob to fit.....

[Team SRT]

thank you for ansering my orginal question..
next question
will the caliber come with rear factory tinted or solar glass? like the caravans trucks etc..

Tinted glass will be standard

[Dan SS2471]

You're right....tonight we're keying on the Caliber. I'm the guy who answered you last month. Hang in there...we want to make sure that what goes out for the fix kills the deal dead....we'll probably be back to 300's next month...

Thanks for looking and sorry for barging in on this discussion. This is cool stuff no matter what the SRT model.

See you guys at the next one....

Dan

[WSUpenguin]

I've read somewhere that the SRT4 Caliber has the same turbocharger(TD04LR) as the srt4 neon. Can you confirm/deny this?

I think the whole SRT team has done a great job with upping the power and I can't wait to see them on the street.

If you read earlier posts they said it's a bigger turbo, and bigger injectors, but no numbers/sizes revealed:eek:

[all_bran]

SRT4:

What is the AFR that the Stage 2 kit (no toys) is tuned to at WOT? I'm only getting like 10.3-10.5, I thought it was richer than that.

[cormikeday]

soooo i guess since this car wont be released till next year theres no chance of it making a "surprise apperence" at the daytona SRT Track Exp. this May huh??? :(

[Team SRT]

I've read somewhere that the SRT4 Caliber has the same turbocharger(TD04LR) as the srt4 neon. Can you confirm/deny this?

I think the whole SRT team has done a great job with upping the power and I can't wait to see them on the street.

Same size but different turbo. The car's a hoot to drive, it will be a hit on the street!

[Team SRT]

will this new world engine be able to do an engine swap with say a srt4 neon's? oh and i like the 6-speed upgrade

Anything is possible with enough time and money....But it is definitely not a "drop in" project.

[Team SRT]

How much of this new engine draws off Mitsubishi's legendary 4G63? Any simularities or interchangablity of parts?

Or should I ask, who's engine was it modeled after? The A853 or the 4G63? I understand it's new, but one of the two was the starting point for the new design.

The 4G63 was a great engine but the new PM 2.4L turbo is all aluminum, with VVT, higher compression ratio and a much improved intake and exhaust air flow path. There are no interchangeable parts.

[Team SRT]

I know you can't comment on future products, just wanted to mention that it would probably be a good idea for you guys to give the "SRT treatment" to a JS-type vehicle. There's such a big price gap between teh SRT4 and SRT8. Something around $28k-$32k would probably be a good idea :D

EDIT: JS is the mid-sided vehicle Stratus, Sebring, etc...

A very good question, but sorry we can't comment on future product.

[Team SRT]

is there anyway you can have a "warning sticker" printed on the driver side visor when it comes from the factory that says like "warning: this car's exhaust is loud... period" so that we can show the police that it's stock when we get questioned about "modifying our exhausts? :D

Perhaps you could point to the stock exhaust isolators / exhaust clamps / catalyst to provide factory legitimacy. We're loud and proud, but not too fond of excessive warning labels!

[jrodsrt4]

with a more powerful engine and all why will the new srt-4 be just as fast as the present. yes i know its heavyer but why not improve in the speed factor.

[Team SRT]

Oh you SRT people are such teases. This is me letting you know that I want to hear about the one big test. Let's have it.


Ok.....here you go.
The test is: YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE BOSS!!!!!!

there are some possibilitys.
1st possibility:
You are sitting with my boss in a room. I will serve both of you a new bottle of fine scottisch single malt wiskey. If you finish the bottle first, you get the job.
Problem: My boss played all his life in a Rock'n Roll Band. So he is a tough guy.
Forget about possibility Nr. 1:D

2nd possibility:
You have to wrestle against my boss. If you get him on the ground, you get the job.
Problem: My boss has got he power of an uncontrolled driving tank and he is as lightfooted as a gazelle. So forget about Nr. 2:D

3rd possibility:
You have to beat his best lap of "Road America". I you make the impossible happen, you get the job.
Problem, Jeff Gordon prays every night in front of a big picture of my boss.
So forget about possibility Nr. 3:D


....the best way would be you try it the old fashioned way........

[Team SRT]

Any idea if Don is gonna let Doug rally one in 2007?

Don who and Doug Yes?

[Team SRT]

OK so it looks like traction and hoping is still a severe problem.

So when will AWD be available, since FWD isn't too functional.


Do you mean hoping for traction or hopping? Drawing your own conclusions isn't always accurate. AWD and FWD have their own strengths and weaknesses. Many WRXs and Evos have a hard time keeping up with Neon SRT4s after launch. There is an Evo owner in Surpsise, AZ who was shamed by a merely fwd Caliber mule on Bell Road back in January...

[WSUpenguin]

will an ACR package be offered as well?

[magnum2point0]

So the Caliber has bad gas mileage, probably floored and at high revs. It is no sweat, just wondering. My Neon R/T burns gas like a guzzler when I play around. I open it up all the time. What is the gas mileage going to be, really? Let's make it easy. What is the gas mileage at 65 MPH in cruise control in 5th gear, or should I say 6th gear? Because I know I can do right now 30 MPG Highway not opening her up, but opening her up it's more like 15-20. And this is an R/T, not SRT.

[Rooster]

on the new srt-4 calbier the popular thing now is to put hids in everything will the srt-4 have the option ?

[Rambit]

Thanks for looking and sorry for barging in on this discussion. This is cool stuff no matter what the SRT model.

See you guys at the next one....

Dan
I had no idea either Dan.

Rambit

[Team SRT]

soooo i guess since this car wont be released till next year theres no chance of it making a "surprise apperence" at the daytona SRT Track Exp. this May huh??? :(
If it did it would be a surprise to all of us.

[Dale Seeley]

Are you bringing an SRT-4 Caliber to the SRT Nationals in Topeka this summer?

[Team SRT]

SRT4:

What is the AFR that the Stage 2 kit (no toys) is tuned to at WOT? I'm only getting like 10.3-10.5, I thought it was richer than that.

Richer is not aways better. Also, we really don't trust most gauges ....

As long as it's running good you'll be fine.

[Team SRT]

on the new srt-4 calbier the popular thing now is to put hids in everything will the srt-4 have the option ?

No, HID's will not be available for the Caliber SRT4.

[SpeeDemon]

How much HP can the new SRT-4 Caliber transmission handle? How severe is torque steer in the new SRT-4?

[Team SRT]

with a more powerful engine and all why will the new srt-4 be just as fast as the present. yes i know its heavyer but why not improve in the speed factor.

The Caliber is a slightly larger vehicle (in terms of frontal area) than the Neon. We'll probably have a few MPH over the Neon SRT4, but not a lot.

[Team SRT]

will an ACR package be offered as well?

Sorry, we can't comment on future products.

[Rooster]

whats your favorite part about the new srt-4 ?

[Team SRT]

What is the rev limit on the SRT-4 Caliber?


Rev limit will be 6500 RPM.

[erok]

What cars do you guys drive? What kind of mods? What kind of racing to you partake in?

And for some good ol' shameless indulgence: Does SRT hire interns?

I promise I'm done talking about things that aren't the Caliber.

[cormikeday]

does the caliber SRT come with a factory blow off valve (noise maker) or just the internal quite one?

[jrodsrt4]

why was there not a manual stick offered in the charger srt-8 how good is the auto stick over any manual stick?

[Team SRT]

So the Caliber has bad gas mileage, probably floored and at high revs. It is no sweat, just wondering. My Neon R/T burns gas like a guzzler when I play around. I open it up all the time. What is the gas mileage going to be, really? Let's make it easy. What is the gas mileage at 65 MPH in cruise control in 5th gear, or should I say 6th gear? Because I know I can do right now 30 MPG Highway not opening her up, but opening her up it's more like 15-20. And this is an R/T, not SRT.

I have a 2001 ACR with the same engine as yours and I get 27-30 mpg combined all the time. 36 mpg is possible on highway cruises. Sounds like driving habit related. Mpg figures for the Caliber SRT4 are not finalized, yet.

[nitehawk]

If you read earlier posts they said it's a bigger turbo, and bigger injectors, but no numbers/sizes revealed:eek:

Sorry, I did read that, i read "better breathing turbo". but the article I read specifically named it by the actual model, TD04LR. That's why I asked for confirmation.

[Team SRT]

does the caliber SRT come with a factory blow off valve (noise maker) or just the internal quite one?

The Caliber will come with the internal quiet one.......Not the noise maker

[Team SRT]

What cars do you guys drive? What kind of mods? What kind of racing to you partake in?

And for some good ol' shameless indulgence: Does SRT hire interns?

I promise I'm done talking about things that aren't the Caliber.

You name it, we race it. Yes, we hire interns.....

[magnum2point0]

Why did you give the Caliber a boxy look, rather than the Neon's more aerodynamic look? When I see the front end of a caliber, I see a mini Dodge Ram grill. Is the aerodynamics of the Caliber better? It looks like it will get wind drag on the front end.

[saxman]

Are all three "holes" in the hood functional and have they been tested in heavy rain/snow?

[Dale Seeley]

Who from SRT is planning to attend the SRT Nationals in Topeka on July 19-22?

Hi Eric...

[crewzen]

I guess I had a reply to wheel hop? Last year your answer to the wheel hop on the SRT-4 forums was old geometry, Well now you had another chance to correct the problem and it looks like same old same old problem.:eek: :D I need something to handle without the hop.

[Team SRT]

whats your favorite part about the new srt-4 ?

300HP / 260 Ft-Lbs! Excessive - you bet, irresponsible - perhaps, fun - definitely!

Something about spinning hte fronts in 3rd gear just makes me horny!

[cormikeday]

if the PEAK boost of the Caliber SRT is 16.... what type of gauge does it have on it, 20psi? 30psi? ..... just trying to put together my own idea of how much more boost the stage kits will push the Caliber up to...

i mean that is if there IS going to be stage kits... (wink, wink) :)

[Boy Blunder]

The SRT4 Caliber it will not be available until spring 2007.



Not being a pain in the butt, but I am turning in my current car off lease in December and REALLY want this to be the replacement. Edmunds.com is showing a target release date of Fall 06 after originally showing a date of Spring 07. Can you give me ANY shred of hope that it may be out earlier than Spring 07....PLEEEASEE

[bluev2srt]

will the car make the rated 300hp and 260tq at the wheels? larger turbo increased compression, variable valve timming and higher rev limiter sound like more than 35hp over the 04-05 car.

[rapidtransitsystemguy]

I was wondering if any of the SRT Engineering Team worked on the Dodge Shelby vehicles in the late 80's - early 90's (ie 87-91 Daytona Shelbys). I am just curious as I have 2- 87 and 1-89 Daytona Shebly T-II cars. Anyone who knows these cars will admire the good parts they were made with.

[magnum2point0]

I'm still waiting on my tax check to purchase a nice turbo from Dark Syde, than I will make SRT events. Will even still sport my R/T logos.

[Team SRT]

Are all three "holes" in the hood functional and have they been tested in heavy rain/snow?

The holes all help us get hot air out from under the hood. The scoop gets cool air to push the hot air off of the dash panel, the louvers get hot air out during slow speed driving. We have designed the hood inner panel to allow the holes to function while keeping water / snow / debris from causing problems

[Team SRT]

Are all three "holes" in the hood functional and have they been tested in heavy rain/snow?

Technically, yes. Of course they're functional, but not necessarily the function that you might think.....Testing in heavy rain/snow? Our headquarters is in MICHIGAN, we can test all four seasons in one day!

[WSUpenguin]

I was told that the 0-60 time is 6 seconds, when the srt4 neon was 5.6, if the numbers are bigger and car only a little heavier, what's with the slower time?

[Team SRT]

Who from SRT is planning to attend the SRT Nationals in Topeka on July 19-22?

Hi Eric...

"SRT Engineer" will be there--we just haven't finalized the roster.

[victor]

The problem I have is that this thing is just butt ugly. Does Dodge understand this will turn away buyers?

[Team SRT]

Sorry, I did read that, i read "better breathing turbo". but the article I read specifically named it by the actual model, TD04LR. That's why I asked for confirmation.

Yes with a few other number attached describing the flow characteristics.

[Team SRT]

Why did you give the Caliber a boxy look, rather than the Neon's more aerodynamic look? When I see the front end of a caliber, I see a mini Dodge Ram grill. Is the aerodynamics of the Caliber better? It looks like it will get wind drag on the front end.

The people we are trying to attract with this car want to be able to haul all sorts of things, not just a__

[Morpheus]

Don who and Doug Yes?

Doug Shepherd, Truck Chassis Director?

[Dale Seeley]

For Musial, if he's there....

http://www.lake-effect-racing.com/onelap/2004/videos/Get_the_Squirrel.wmv

[Team SRT]

I guess I had a reply to wheel hop? Last year your answer to the wheel hop on the SRT-4 forums was old geometry, Well now you had another chance to correct the problem and it looks like same old same old problem.:eek: :D I need something to handle without the hop.
WHO SAYS WE HAVE A PROBLEM!

[magnum2point0]

WSU: maybe the gear ratio is different? Good question!

[Team SRT]

why was there not a manual stick offered in the charger srt-8 how good is the auto stick over any manual stick?

The SRT 8 was built from the base vehicle that did not have a manual available...

[Team SRT]

I was told that the 0-60 time is 6 seconds, when the srt4 neon was 5.6, if the numbers are bigger and car only a little heavier, what's with the slower time?

We quoted LESS than 6, no final numbers are available.

[Team SRT]

What cars do you guys drive? What kind of mods? What kind of racing to you partake in?

And for some good ol' shameless indulgence: Does SRT hire interns?

I promise I'm done talking about things that aren't the Caliber.

Many, people who work at SRT are or have been involved in drag, land speed, circle track, sportscar, etc...racing. Even more have cool cars at home. The list would take more time than we have here to make.

[SpeeDemon]

How much HP can the new SRT-4 Caliber transmission handle? How severe is torque steer in the new SRT-4?

I think you skipped my question?

[magana]

Is the Caliber SRT4's 300 HP figure also underrated like the 230 HP of the Neon SRT4?

[Team SRT]

I was wondering if any of the SRT Engineering Team worked on the Dodge Shelby vehicles in the late 80's - early 90's (ie 87-91 Daytona Shelbys). I am just curious as I have 2- 87 and 1-89 Daytona Shebly T-II cars. Anyone who knows these cars will admire the good parts they were made with.

Yes, there are some seasoned vets who worked on those cars here at SRT, including one from team shelby!

[Team SRT]

I think you skipped my question?

We have indeed answered these questions prior in this post.

[Team SRT]

Is the Caliber SRT4's 300 HP figure also underrated like the 230 HP of the Neon SRT4?
The same engineers are responsible. Read the article in this months Car & Driver by Larry Webster

[Team SRT]

The problem I have is that this thing is just butt ugly. Does Dodge understand this will turn away buyers?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[MoparRandy]

Good Evening, Engineers:

I hate to ask this question on the Caliber Forum, but I really want an SRT Engineer to address this before another SRT product gets released with what I consider a major flaw. I have an SRT-8 Magnum and there is a severe delay (at least 500 RPM) in the 1-2 shift when the AutoStick is used in manual mode. I know this is software related and I have all the latest versions, yet there is still a painful delay. Is anyone working to correct this? I am tired of bumping the rev limiter everytime I drive the car for maximum performance.

Thanks,

Randy

[saxman]

Thanks for taking the time to answer the questions tonight! I just want to know if a lot/what has been done to improve power delivery from the front wheels to the ground on the Caliber SRT4 vs. the Neon SRT-4.

[CKS]

Hi SRT TEAM
I just have a couple of questions. The first question is if one of you guys could do a brief email interview with me? I Need it for a school project, and I need to interview a engineer that works with automotives.

[jrodsrt4]

i love mopar muscle you guys are great srt's are the best productson the road nice job and thank you for the car and the answers tonight

[Dale Seeley]

What topics do you plan to cover in the live tech talks at the SRT Nationals this year?

[WSUpenguin]

off topic, but damn there are a lot of people viewing the site today!

[KCustom]

I heard that there is a really killer Kicker system designed for the new SRT 4 is this true?

[Team SRT]

What cars do you guys drive? What kind of mods? What kind of racing to you partake in?

And for some good ol' shameless indulgence: Does SRT hire interns?

I promise I'm done talking about things that aren't the Caliber.

Here are working a lot of different people as you may guess. They all drive different cars, but they are all very fast. We take every opportunity to race (from the race to be first in the bathroom in the morning till the 24 hours of Nuerburgring)
And YES, we hire intern. But you have to pass the test I was talking about. And if You believe it or not......even our interns have a HEMI inside........:D
I love my job

[Morpheus]

Why don't you guys pitch the VM turbo diesel as a powerplant and really put the competition to shame?

I can see it now.........

[caliber4whoosh]

Thanks alot on behalf of everyone here for answering all of our questions, it's really cool of you guys. :D

[Team SRT]

i love mopar muscle you guys are great srt's are the best productson the road nice job and thank you for the car and the answers tonight
Thank you and we're glad to be here.

[sr4tuner]

Have you ever worked with amg on any srt model or vice-versa i thnik you could learn alot from each other or is there a language barrirer?

[Team SRT]

What topics do you plan to cover in the live tech talks at the SRT Nationals this year?


It depends on the expertise of who is sent. Forte can answer any car cleaning/parking questions.

[Team SRT]

Doug Shepherd, Truck Chassis Director?

Doug and Pete did win the 2004 SCCA Pro Rally Manufacturers Championship in a Stage 3 Dodge SRT4.

[u81i812usa]

The people we are trying to attract with this car want to be able to haul all sorts of things, not just a__

Dodge is hoping to grab all those people that are dumping thier gas guzzling tanks (Tahoes and such) by giving them a tonka sized version of those tanks.:p

Then the SRT guys figured that if the base ones wont sell then dump 300 ponies under the hood and the Tuners will scoop them up like no tomorrow.:D

[magnum2point0]

Well last question for you guys: IS THE CALIBER, ALL MODELS, GOING TO BE TUNERS, EASILY MODDED, AS NEONS WERE? I am a perspective buyer. I like the Dodge small engine line. Good on gas, when you don't abuse, and great power on the track when you do abuse. You guys pitched a great car today. Thanks. I still think that the Caliber is too boxy. Looks like a small ram from the front and a magnum from the back. Should have designed the look a little more sleek and aerodynamic. Like a sports car. Especially the SRT-4 Caliber.

[Team SRT]

Hi SRT TEAM
I just have a couple of questions. The first question is if one of you guys could do a brief email interview with me? I Need it for a school project, and I need to interview a engineer that works with automotives.
I might be able to help; please send your questions to me (please keep them brief), and I'll route them to an engineer and send them back to you. Send to dwb11@dcx.com.

[Team SRT]

I heard that there is a really killer Kicker system designed for the new SRT 4 is this true?

At a bare minimum, the "killer" Kicker system will be offered by Mopar.
(Hi Joe)

[FasstDak]

So when are you guys going to release some of the "performance oriented" GPEC1's into the mainstream? Also, how about some tuning capabilities for the aftermarket. DC made that mistake with the JTEC and NGC's...let's not do it with the GPEC's...please. What about the longevity of the CVT trans under higher performance configurations? How does the band hold up?

Last question: different rim/tire combinations...'someone' took the Rev/Mile option out of the StarScan on the LX platform - what's the deal with that?!? You can't set the pinion factor for 20's on a 3.5L 300. Is that now the same thing for the PM platform?

Yes...I am a DC tech and have already been playing around with the Calibers and some custom aftermarket pieces.

[Team SRT]

Good Evening, Engineers:

I hate to ask this question on the Caliber Forum, but I really want an SRT Engineer to address this before another SRT product gets released with what I consider a major flaw. I have an SRT-8 Magnum and there is a severe delay (at least 500 RPM) in the 1-2 shift when the AutoStick is used in manual mode. I know this is software related and I have all the latest versions, yet there is still a painful delay. Is anyone working to correct this? I am tired of bumping the rev limiter everytime I drive the car for maximum performance.

Thanks,

Randy

Keep in mind that in manual mode there is no auto upshift so you might be waiting too long and bumping the rev limiter. Max torque is rated at 4400 rpm so you might try pulling the handle a bit quicker.

[bluev2srt]

is the 300hp and 260tq at the wheels like the current model is rated at the wheels? your post before pointed to this and 3rd gear wheel spin also. lastly how much with the srt4 caliber weight

[Team SRT]

Have you ever worked with amg on any srt model or vice-versa i thnik you could learn alot from each other or is there a language barrirer?

We talk all the time and there is no language barrier.

[all4srt]

Is the A/C required to be on for the beverage "chill zone" to work?

[Dale Seeley]

At a bare minimum, the "killer" Kicker system will be offered by Mopar.
(Hi Joe)

Is it true the Kicker system knocks the rearview mirror off the windshield, so the delay in production is due to the search for a better adhesive?

[FasstDak]

It's not that cold in there.

[Team SRT]

Thanks alot on behalf of everyone here for answering all of our questions, it's really cool of you guys. :D

Glad you enjoyed it....see you next month....

[Team SRT]

Well last question for you guys: IS THE CALIBER, ALL MODELS, GOING TO BE TUNERS, EASILY MODDED, AS NEONS WERE? I am a perspective buyer. I like the Dodge small engine line. Good on gas, when you don't abuse, and great power on the track when you do abuse. You guys pitched a great car today. Thanks. I still think that the Caliber is too boxy. Looks like a small ram from the front and a magnum from the back. Should have designed the look a little more sleek and aerodynamic. Like a sports car. Especially the SRT-4 Caliber.

Thanks for the good words. We'll try to lin\ve up to your expectations

[Team SRT]

is the 300hp and 260tq at the wheels like the current model is rated at the wheels? your post before pointed to this and 3rd gear wheel spin also. lastly how much with the srt4 caliber weight

Rating rules have recently changed, and we're playing by those rules. The vehicle weighs around 3200 Lbs