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timing chain??????????

well my queston is :i know that our cars don't have a timing belt wich has to be changed at 80000km,so how is that with the timing chain that we have ,does it needs to be replaced at a certain milage or ddo we not have this proplem ???????cheers Thomas
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Re: timing chain??????????

o ,this is maby a stupid question ,but nobody has a coment on this one????
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Re: timing chain??????????

Tup doesn't it say anything in the copy of the service manual you have?

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Re: timing chain??????????

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Tup doesn't it say anything in the copy of the service manual you have?
thats all it says ,but it does not says how long it last??
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COVER-TIMING CHAIN
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REMOVAL
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]
1. Remove engine cover.
2. Perform fuel pressure bleed procedure.
3. Remove air cleaner housing (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/AIR INTAKE SYSTEM/AIR CLEANER HOUSING -
REMOVAL).
4. Disconnect negative battery cable.
5. Drain cooling system
6. Remove coolant recovery bottle.
7. Remove windshield washer bottle.
8. Remove power steering reservoir and set aside.
9. Remove make up air hose.
10. Remove PCV hose.
11. Disconnect ignition coil electrical connectors.
12. Remove cylinder head cover (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/CYLINDER HEAD/CYLINDER HEAD COVER(S) -
REMOVAL).
13. Raise vehicle.
14. Remove right lower splash shield.
15. Set engine to TDC.
16. Remove accessory drive belt (Refer to 7 - COOLING/ACCESSORY DRIVE/DRIVE BELTS - REMOVAL).
17. Remove lower A/C compressor retaining bolts.
18. Remove A/C compressor lower bracket.
19. Remove accessory drive belt lower idler pulley.
20. Remove crankshaft pulley.
21. Remove water pump pulley.
22. Remove timing chain cover lower bolts.
23. Lower vehicle.
24. Remove power steering pump and set aside.
25. Support engine with a suitable jack.
26. Remove right engine mount.
27. Remove accessory drive belt upper idler pulley.
28. Remove right engine mount bracket.
29. Remove accessory drive belt tensioner.
30. Remove timing chain cover upper retaining bolts.
31. Remove timing chain cover.
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INSTALLATION
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]
1. Clean all sealing surfaces.
2. Apply RTV as shown at the cylinder head to block parting line.
3. Apply RTV as shown in the corner of the oil pan and block.
4. Apply 2mm bead of RTV as shown.
5. Install timing chain cover.
6. Install timing chain cover upper retaining bolts and torque bolts.
7. Install accessory drive belt tensioner.
8. Install right engine mount bracket and torque.
9. Install accessory drive belt upper idler pulley.
10. Install right engine mount and torque bolts.
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11. Remove jack from under engine.
12. Install power steering pump.
13. Raise vehicle.
14. Install timing chain cover lower retaining bolts and torque bolts.
15. Install oil pan to timing chain cover lower retaining bolts and torque bolts.
16. Install water pump pulley.
17. Install crankshaft pulley and torque bolt.
18. Install accessory drive belt lower idler pulley.
19. Install lower A/C compressor mounting bracket.
20. Install A/C compressor.
21. Install accessory drive belt (Refer to 7 - COOLING/ACCESSORY DRIVE/DRIVE BELTS - INSTALLATION).
22. Install right lower splash shield.
23. Lower vehicle.
24. Install cylinder head cover (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/CYLINDER HEAD/CYLINDER HEAD COVER(S) - INSTALLATION)
25. Connect coil electrical connector,
26. Connect PCV hose to PCV valve.
27. Connect make up air hose.
28. Install power steering reservoir.
29. Install windshield washer bottle.
30. Install coolant recovery bottle.
31. Fill cooling system (Refer to 7 - COOLING - STANDARD PROCEDURE).
32. Connect negative battery cable.
33. Install air cleaner housing (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/AIR INTAKE SYSTEM/AIR CLEANER HOUSING - INSTALLATION).
34. Install engine cover.
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CHAIN AND SPROCKETS-TIMING
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REMOVAL
TIMING CHAIN
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]
1. Perform fuel pressure bleed procedure.
2. Remove air cleaner housing.
3. Set engine to TDC.
4. Remove timing chain cover (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/
VALVE TIMING/TIMING BELT / CHAIN COVER(S)
- REMOVAL).
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]
NOTE: If the timing chain plated links can no
longer be seen, the timing chain links corresponding
the timing marks must be marked prior to
removal if the chain is to be reused.
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]
5. Remove timing chain tensioner (5) (Refer to 9 -
ENGINE/VALVE TIMING/TMNG BELT/CHAIN
TENSIONER&PULLEY - REMOVAL).
6. Remove timing chain (2).
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CAMSHAFT SPROCKET(S)
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Refer to camshaft phasor removal (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/CYLINDER HEAD/CAMSHAFT(S) - REMOVAL).
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=5]
TIMING-CHAIN TENSIONER
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]
REMOVAL
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]
1. Remove timing chain (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/VALVE
TIMING/TIMING BELT/CHAIN AND SPROCKETS -
REMOVAL).
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]
NOTE: Tensioner will not come apart during
removal.
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]
2. Remove timing chain tensioner retaining bolts and
remove tensioner.
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]
INSTALLATION
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]
1. Reset tensioner.
2. Install timing chain (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/VALVE
TIMING/TIMING BELT/CHAIN AND SPROCKETS -
INSTALLATION).
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial]PM [/FONT][FONT=Arial]ENGINE 1.8L WORLD 9 - 1541
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Re: timing chain??????????

Chains historically dont need to be changed at normal intervals. They can last 100's of thousands of miles. I have 153 on my 6000 STE and it still has the origianl chain along with a 90 6000 I has which had 173 on it.
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Re: timing chain??????????

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Chains historically dont need to be changed at normal intervals. They can last 100's of thousands of miles. I have 153 on my 6000 STE and it still has the origianl chain along with a 90 6000 I has which ,had 173 on it.
thank you ,so basicly we have a low maintance car,nice to know
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Re: timing chain??????????

Wouldn't hurt to inspect the timing chain at about the 100,000 mile mark. Also weird or unusual noises like clattering or growling, I would have it checked asap. Otherwise my experience is these chains last pretty much the life of the car with proper maintenance. However if replacing the water pump or drive pulleys, you might want to consider a new chain. Over time they can stretch or be just worn down. But I would think they would hold up nicely.
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Re: timing chain??????????

methinks I shall take it somewhere if it ever comes down to that task.
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Re: timing chain??????????

I also wouldnt want to do it unless I really had nothing else to do. Chains >Belts
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Re: timing chain??????????

You would be paranoid about timing chains if you ever owned a Chrysler with the 2.7L V6. I owned an Intrepid with that motor, and it has a very bad reputation because of the timing chain(s) (there are 3). A little sludge build-up in a few tiny oil passages, and BLAMMO, instant engine rebuild.
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