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Issue #1 - Liftgate Opening

Root Causes
Seal is severely rolled inboard or outboard
Liftgate is mis-adjusted and creates a large seal gap


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Issue #2 - Hood Opening, Potential leak at A-post to plenum joint

Root Causes
Foil backed mastic patch missing
Foil backed mastic patch not installed correctly


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Issue #3 -Tail Lamp Area, Potential leak through tail lamp PLP plugs

Root Causes
Grommet not sealing to BSA (need clear sealer rework)


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Issue #4 - Under Fender Forward of Door, Potential leak through seam at cowl side to load beam

Root Causes
Seam is not sealed


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Issue #5 - Under Fender Forward of Mirror, Potential leak through fender baffle attach holes

Root Causes
Missing sealer between fender baffle clips and body


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Issue #6 - Rear Door, Potential water leak through division bar Leak shows up at rear bolster

Root Causes
Notch and foam missing on outer belt at division post
Bolster not lined with closed cell foam for seal


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Issue #7 - Liftgate, Potential water leak through hem flange and does not drain properly

Root Causes
Hem sealer skip
Loose hem


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Issue #8 - Liftgate Opening, Potential water leak through roof to bodysideseam

Root Causes
Skip or void in vinyl sealer


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Issue #9 - Liftgate Opening, Potential water leak through hinge bolts

Root Causes
Distorted clearance hole
Damaged hinge gasket
Bolt head gaps to hinge
Must seal with clear sealer
Torque on fasteners not to spec


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Caliber water leaks Reference Guide - Continued


Issue #10 - Liftgate, Potential leak through wiper motor gasket

Root Causes
Grommet not properly seated
Grommet damaged


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Issue #11 - Tail Lamp Area, Potential water leak through harness plug

Root Causes
Grommet not seated
Tape around wire bundle is not sufficient to keep water out


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Issue #12 - Windshield, Potential water leak through skip in windshield urethane bead

Root Causes
Windshield urethane bead skip or distortion


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Issue #13 - Liftgate Glass, Potential water leak through start/stop skip in urethane

Root Causes
Skip or distortion in urethane bead


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Issue #14 - Liftgate/Spoiler, Potential leak through unseated spoiler clip hole

Root Causes
Spoiler clip not completely seated


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Issue #15 - Liftgate Opening, Potential leak through overslambumper holes

Root Causes
Part not seated correctly


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Issue #16 - Under Fender Forward of Door, Potential leak through grommet along wires

Root Causes
Water enters along wires


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Issue #17 - Liftgate Opening, Potential leak through PLP hole in rear header

Root Causes
Sealer tape not fully seated


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Issue #18 - Headliner, Potential water leaking from headliner after a heavy rain or car wash

Root Causes:
Kink/pinch/cut in drain tube
See TSB 23-043-06

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Here you go again with more great information! Thanks so much i may have to use this to get my dealer to see if i have a leak. I happened during the winter but i havent noticed it since (maybe it was just my shoes which i am hoping!)

MODS: perhaps another sticky??
 

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Yes, GREAT information but all issues known and addressed. I would hope this amount of insider information would not scare off new buyers or current owners.

All manufactures deal with these same issues.
 

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IBUILDCALIBERSUAW1268 said:
Yes, GREAT information but all issues known and addressed. I would hope this amount of insider information would not scare off new buyers or current owners. All manufactures deal with these same issues.
I think information like this would have more of a "postive" impact over the long run than a "negative" impact, especially since it is covering what would be considered a "minor" problem (as opposed to engine or tranny issues for example). For one, it provides and shows that there are "solutions" to issues that owners may be having, or might have in the future.

What WOULD scare off new buyers would be tons of posts about a particular problem in which owners are frustrated because no solution has been found, problems in which there are no easy solutions or problems that have not been corrected after repeated dealer vists.

I commend Dodge for jumping on these issues and finding, what looks like, a solution to cover any and all of these water leaks. Current and potential future owners can rest assured that should a water leak issue develop that there is an easy solution at hand. Even though this type of information may be available to dealers, you will find many that have no idea that the documentation exists and dealers who will not go out of their way to find it even after repeated repair attempts.
 

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I think information like this would have more of a "postive" impact over the long run than a "negative" impact, especially since it is covering what would be considered a "minor" problem (as opposed to engine or tranny issues for example). For one, it provides and shows that Even though this type of information may be available to dealers, you will find many that have no idea that the documentation exists and dealers who will not go out of their way to find it even after repeated repair attempts.
Words of wisdom always appreciated.:cool:
 

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Just discovered today that there is a significant amount of water in the left tail light.

Probably got in through the ways detailed in here.

I'll be bringing it in for servicing in the next couple of days.

Thanks for sticking this thread.

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ResumeSpeed said:
Issue #1 - Liftgate Opening

Root Causes
Seal is severely rolled inboard or outboard
Liftgate is mis-adjusted and creates a large seal gap


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Issue #2 - Hood Opening, Potential leak at A-post to plenum joint

Root Causes
Foil backed mastic patch missing
Foil backed mastic patch not installed correctly


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Issue #3 -Tail Lamp Area, Potential leak through tail lamp PLP plugs

Root Causes
Grommet not sealing to BSA (need clear sealer rework)


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Issue #4 - Under Fender Forward of Door, Potential leak through seam at cowl side to load beam

Root Causes
Seam is not sealed


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Issue #5 - Under Fender Forward of Mirror, Potential leak through fender baffle attach holes

Root Causes
Missing sealer between fender baffle clips and body


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Issue #6 - Rear Door, Potential water leak through division bar Leak shows up at rear bolster

Root Causes
Notch and foam missing on outer belt at division post
Bolster not lined with closed cell foam for seal


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Issue #7 - Liftgate, Potential water leak through hem flange and does not drain properly

Root Causes
Hem sealer skip
Loose hem


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Issue #8 - Liftgate Opening, Potential water leak through roof to bodysideseam

Root Causes
Skip or void in vinyl sealer


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Issue #9 - Liftgate Opening, Potential water leak through hinge bolts

Root Causes
Distorted clearance hole
Damaged hinge gasket
Bolt head gaps to hinge
Must seal with clear sealer
Torque on fasteners not to spec


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I guess this means my new Caliber probably won't float very long, huh?


07 Caliber R/T awd - Sunburst orange
06 Ford Fusion SEL - redfire metallic
 

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Just curious as to what % of the Calibers have (WATER) leaks. I test drove an 07 , RT with sunroof went to do some Christmas shopping and put a sack on te rear pasenger floor board , got home , picked the sack up and the contents fell to the floor.
I took it back to the dealer , Dealer ordered parts for the repair and has been waiting for the parts for over 2 weeks . I had not signed any papers yet so I went looking for another RT / awd , found one , bought it last Friday it warmed up & started raining on Monday and guess what ! This one leaks too!!
 

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Hmmm...I had a Caliber with a sunroof and it never leaked once. I'd make sure the drain tubes are clear. You can see them when you open the sunroof and then look in the top left and top right of the sunroof opening. This is usually the reason why its leaking.
 

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Did both cars have sunroofs?
 

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Yep , both had sunroofs and both had over 10,000 miles on them so you just wonder how long they have been leaking , is there some place to check & see if they have been in for prior repairs ?

The one I bought Black 07 , Red seat inserts was leaking at the top of the A post where the plastic moulding meets the cloth headliner and has stained the headliner. It is back in the shop agin .

The 07 Caliber we test drove had no visible signs of a leak just soaked floors.
 

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Last week I had my Caliber into the dealer for water leak repairs. I thought that mine only had a leak around the front passenger side a post , the dealer had it one day called me around 5:00 closing time and said they had it fixed.

Got it back home ( in the dark ) left it outside in the rain over night . Next day we still had a leak , but it was not visible from the same spot. Not only did it still leak but the headliner had grease spots on it and the plastic air deflector that pops up when the sun roof opens was broken .
Took the Caliber back to the Dealer , they gave us a loner car and said they would call when the Caliber was fixed .
2 DAYS went by , the dealer called and said they were still trying to find out where it was leaking from . They taped every possible crack etc. up and ran water on it & found 2 to 3 spots it may be leaking from. The last spot they repaired was on the coul by the windshield wipers in the plastic cowl . It was filling up and running back into the heater duct work.

It has been below freezing since I got it back so I am not sure it is fixed yet.

My biggest question still is how can a car be driven by DODGE EXECS for 11,000 mi. and the WATER LEAK not have already been fixed.
Is the water leaking problem part of the Caliber SPEC Package ???

I love the Caliber , but give me a break , it surely is not part of the Caliber Package.
 

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I t finally warmed up this past weekend and it rained for almost 2 days straight and pretty hard. At first I thought the leaks were fixed , there were no visible signs of any leaks while it was sitting on a flat ground . But about aq 1/4 mile down the road and DOWN HILL as I stopped to turn on to the main drag A heavy stream of water ran out where the plastic molding meets the headliner on the front a post. About 1/4 to half cup but the floor was dry. So I guess we are making pretty good improvement I guess.

How about any one else ? Has anyone heard of a non sunroof Caliber leaking water?
I really like my RT AWD and have been having a ball off roading it on my hilly five acres in the snow . It does great in 4 to 6 inches on & off road , waiting to try it in a foot or 2.
 

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I c. After looking through the problem section for a bit, I think I have a few things to look for in my test drive. Now I think I need to take the car to a car wash to looks for any leaks! lol
 

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mine is at the dealer right now for an oil change and a leak some where. I hope they fix all of these.

i have no sunroof btw.
 

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I own a 2007 dodge caliber with a sunroof. I got quite a bit of water in the back passenger floor. Anyone have a idea of where it could of come from. The two front drain holes in the sunroof are clear.

Daryl
 
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