Caliber SRT-4 in C&amp;D

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caliber4whoosh

· #3 · Mar 31, 2006

Welcome dude!

I second the scan request.

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I'm really amazed that the SRT4 is ready so fast.... it took Mazda a few years before they put out a turbocharged version of their car..... I guess there's no point in holding anything back during a mid-life refresh

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pacerman

· #5 · Apr 2, 2006

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Xtreme Thunder said:
Yeah can we get a scan please!!

Oh yeah, Welcome to Caliberforums!!!

This is a post from another caliber forum.......

My MT arrived today, pitting the Caliber R/T vs. Matrix XRS, Mazda 3s and Chevy HHR.

1. Mazda
2. Toyota
3. HHR
4. Caliber

The Caliber 0-60 passed 10 seconds (Mazda and Toyota led at 8 flat). And they didn't like the fact you can't fold the rear seats from the back of the car, like the other three vehicles.

The 3300+ lbs of weight didn't help, easy defeating the 172HP engine. The Matrix was not AWD, but weighed in at 500 lbs. less.

My personal experience is I like, but don't love the outside. At 6'4", I don't really fit in front, or out back. Not pleased with the fact that AC is optional. Like the dash, easy to use. Like iPod holder. Interior surfaces are quite hard, with plenty of corners to graze your knees and elbows.

This compounds, and reaffirms the C&D comparison (6th place finish).

Don't shoot the messenger!

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holeydonut

· #6 · Apr 2, 2006

Hmmm, I wonder why they didn't wait for the Golf GLI (5 door) to come out this summer before pitting all the 5-door hatchbacks against each other.

Regardless, I'd like to read that article.... does anyone have a scan of it?

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Silverfox

· #7 · Apr 2, 2006

Ten ****ing seconds?

Bullshit...I'm calling bullshit.

My 2.0 SXT will get to sixty in 8.7 seconds (timed with stopwatch four times with passenger) and will make it to 120 MPH with ease.

**** C&D.

I'll make my own assumptions and opinions on vehicles from now on.

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GOT

· #8 · Apr 2, 2006

The C&D article used the SE with the 1.8. The 2.0 would've been a lot better... of course more expensive. I read the article and all those other cars are ugly piles of junk. The Fit is so weak and dumpy that it's laughable. The Caliber is twice the cars the others are and almost in a different class.

Concerning the MT article, the Mazda3s is a hot car, no doubt about that. But I think the Caliber is as good or better. The Matrix and HHR (man that car UGLY!!!) are simply dumpy, glorified bread-boxes. The Vibe is a cool car though (yes I know it's a Toyota but it looks a lot better than the Matrix), I like it, but I also like the Caliber more.

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Dale Seeley

· #9 · Apr 2, 2006

We'll have the SRT-4 Caliber at the SRT Nationals this July. It will be on the racetracks, and in the magazines.... for real, not just estimates

Come see it for yourself...

Dale

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Xtreme Thunder

· #10 · Apr 2, 2006

Xtreme Thunder said:
Yeah can we get a scan please!!

Screw it I went out and bought the C&D for May 2006. Where they tested the 7 "econo cars", Caliber being one of them. I saw that they were highly biased toward the Honda Fit which came in "first place" I will admit that the Caliber is not perfect but come on.

No way a R/T will get 10.0 Seconds for a 0-60 WAY TOO LOW...bastards. The 1.8 MT Caliber in the C&D test got it in 9.7sec and 2.0 gets about mid 8's well 8.7 according to Silverfox, thanks by the way.

****No scanner, do what I did, stand in your local supermarket cursing out the article!!

I bought it because there was an article about the Caliber SRT-4, not real new info on that.

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caliber4whoosh

· #11 · Apr 2, 2006

Yeah, I have a subsciption to that shitrag..read it yesterday..

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draed

· #12 · Apr 2, 2006

I bought the MT today to read that article.

The Caliber they used was a "preproduction pilot". Caliber was the only AWD they tested, and the Matrix and 3s they tested were manual transmissions. 5 speed for the mazda and 6 speed for the toyota.

They do mention they're looking forward to testing a production version, but they don't mention a manual RT, so maybe they will re-do the test when that is released.

Interestingly enough they mention that the caliber was thrown into the test at the last minute.

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caliberSSRT

· #13 · Apr 2, 2006

C&D is a joke. I am from china, HONDA made and sold FIT in china since 2 years ago. FIT is a piece of crap. The sheetmetal is so low quality and thin the you can cut it witha small fruit-knife. HONDA make crap cars espcially in China, the Japs is known for "best product for demestic, second rate for EURO/America, the rate product for asian". Fit is a moving coffin that you can in a crash any time. If you guy know how to send emails to C&D just send what I said to them. They are so biased toward HONDA that I wondering is HONDA OWNED them,

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caliberSSRT

· #14 · Apr 2, 2006

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Please send these pictures to the HONDA owned C&D:

The most advanced Accord with Jet fligher like "Eject Seats":

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holeydonut

· #15 · Apr 2, 2006 (Edited)

I agree, the Honda Fit, Jazz, City chassis-mates are sub-standard compared to the more refined Civic, CRV, Accord, etc. But people based their evaluations on their own experiences, and having a good experience with the Honda brand lends itself to better consideration.

Same reason why Dan Niel of the LA Times generally had a mediocre response to the new Civic, but still viewed it as a comparable car to the Mazda3 and other introductory offerings. However, the same Neil had a whole boat-load of good things to say about the Mazda3 when he reviewed it. He just wasn't expecting it to be that good. With the Honda Civic, he just talked about the hybrid option and how Honda is replacing a bad Civic with a good one.

Honda has set expectations and will meet them unless they really mess something up. Other manufacturers have very low expectations and need to do a great job to make others perceive a stellar effort. The Mazda3 is a great step forward for their C-sized car... but the Caliber probably fails to leapfrog expectations and gets mired in the preconceived notions that it will be sub par.

I'd watch the potential racial slurs though, "Japs" is slang, especially when used in the context you brought up.

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caliberSSRT

· #16 · Apr 2, 2006 (Edited)

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It is not cecret that we don;t like Japs. Remember I am not from USA. FIT 's sheet metal is world class-"as good as Coke":

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DodgeGirlKathy

· #17 · Apr 2, 2006

caliberSSRT said:
Please send these pictures to the HONDA owned C&D:
The most advanced Accord with Jet fligher like "Eject Seats":

God help the driver of that car....

That accident looks so violent that ANY car could have sustained similar damage.

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caliberSSRT

· #18 · Apr 2, 2006

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HONDA's 5 stars energy absorbing:

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DodgeGirlKathy

· #19 · Apr 2, 2006

What exactly is the point you are trying to make, here on a Dodge Caliber forum? (especially when it is not even in the "off topic" area of the board)

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caliberSSRT

· #20 · Apr 2, 2006

DodgeGirlKathy said:
God help the driver of that car....

That accident looks so violent that ANY car could have sustained similar damage.

It is not so bad, the woman driver saw someone on highway, and tried to avoid and crashed into the side wall. I would guess when it hit the side wall the speed is like 50 miles at most since the front is not very badly damaged. A 40 mile front crash may have worse damage to the car's front. The lession is she obvously did not wear seat belt. But the Quality of roof is so poor.

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