The Caliber "world" engines are not E-85 compatible.
You're talking about E-10 right? If I'm not mistaken that is safe to run in all cars. I've never heard otherwise and I used to run it in my previous cars all the time and nothing adverse happened..22 said:What about gas that is 10% ethanol? There are a ton of stations around me that have the 10% ethanol gas. Do I need to drive in search of a "regular" station?
Two timing on the Cali now I see.superbang said:that muzzysgirl. she's cute, but she's way cuter when she's drunk!!
E-85 is a different animal in the fuel world. The combustion of ethanol produces a whole different set of byproducts that need to be contended with. For one, there is more wator vapor as a by-product of combustion, so the spark needs to be hotter. Other byproducts include acetelyhyde and formaldehyde in quantities significantly higher than gasoline. These compounds have etching effects on some metals, and can effect sensors, catalytic converters, and exhaust components.n1vek said:With E-85 having a octane rating of 100+, wouldn't it be possible to achieve some increased performance using it. I would assume that a chip would have a feature making it able to adjust to the higher octane and run effectivly off it. Any ideas?
E-85 is another phase/fad that America is going through. First it was the hybrids, which if you haven't read the recent Consumer Reports article on them, where you would have to own one for about 9 years and drive it X amount of miles everyday before it STARTS paying you back in mileage when you factor the astronomical upkeep of them. The only thing E-85 has going for it is the fact it is renewable, besides that, you get worse gas mileage on it.
The real solution to the gas crisis.. bio-diesel. It is a renewable fuel that we throw out everyday. It comes from used cooking oil and is processed out into diesel fuel that can run in any diesel car, truck or semi without a single issue, it burns cleaner (Less smoking) and it smells like your frying french fries out of your tailpipes. I have heard of a few B-D plants going up in the States, so it should be coming to the pumps soon. With that in place, European diesel cars and trucks can be imported over, previously kept out of the States due to the high sulfur count in our diesel fuel. Diesels have come so far along in technological advancement that they can keep pace with the gasoline engine now.
56 pounds of corn for 2 1/2 gallons of ethanol. That doesn't sound very effecient, especially coped with the less gas mileage you get on E-85. If you thought us importing crude oil from other countries was bad, wait until we start having to import corn from other countries. There are far more common and reoccuring factors that threaten the production of ethanol than of crude oil. Frost can easily damage and ruin a corn crop. If you though hurricane Katrina was bad to the gas prices, wait until every cold snap happens in Iowa and other huge corn producing states.irloyal said:Cal,
E85 and Hybrids being a fad are one mans (or womans...) opinion. E85 has the ability to be a good alternative fuel. Development of engines designed to specifically work on this fuel will lead to improvements in milage and performance.
Hybrids are another promising method to reduce the use of gasoline. As to the payback issue, well that's fools logic. You purchase a car for many reasons, milage may be one of them. What's the payback on airconditioning or XM radio? Hybrids provide one alternative to acheive better milage, and in some cases better performance overall. Hybrids may not be limited to gas electric either. Diesel electric hybrids are coming as well as fuel cell hybrids.
Bio diesel is another excellent option. I personally know a guy who has a diesel truck he uses on his farm pretty much exclusively. He actually gets the used frying oil from a couple of restaurants (for FREE ), filters it, and mixes it 50/50 with low sulpher diesel in the warmer months. The truck runs fine, and it really does smell like french fries.
None of these are solutions in themselves, but as we incorporate more and more alternatives, we reduce our dependance on foriegn sources of fuel. Now if congress would quit sitting on their brains and open up Alaska, and more of the coastal areas for drilling, we could start making a serious dent on imported oil.
Ethanol can be produced from a multitude of sources. Not just the corn kernals, but the cobs, stalks and husks, tailings from paper mills, KUDZU, wild grasses, etc. Again, it is not a total solution, but it is a renewable resource we can exploit. Again, the fools logic applies to frost, famine, hurricanes etc. What if games are best left to computer sims, and preparedness drills. If we were proposing to close the door on imported oil and go 100% ethanol, we would need to critically assess those scenarios. If we use E85 as an option for those who want to use it, we make a small dent in the BIG foreign oil can.CoolCallie said:56 pounds of corn for 2 1/2 gallons of ethanol. That doesn't sound very effecient, especially coped with the less gas mileage you get on E-85. If you thought us importing crude oil from other countries was bad, wait until we start having to import corn from other countries. There are far more common and reoccuring factors that threaten the production of ethanol than of crude oil. Frost can easily damage and ruin a corn crop. If you though hurricane Katrina was bad to the gas prices, wait until every cold snap happens in Iowa and other huge corn producing states.