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Hey guys... I've been looking around for an oil filter so I can do my 1st oil change here soon... Mopar has a filter available for $5.xx, here's the link:

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The Purolator L12222 has no availability yet, Purolator's own factory shows 0 on hand to ship out. AutoZone is the only place you can get one, in the STP brand, which is just a Fram filter. Though I find it odd that Fram let someone they sell their filters to, come to market with their filter before they do. The Zone keeps the STP in stock in all of it's stores. Advance Auto Parts/Parts America does not have any filter readily available for sale or order for the Caliber.
 

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^^ indeed... STP S10060 is the right one... I just changed mine yesterday... it took me, my uncle, and my brother all trying to get the factory filter off before my 70 year old grandpa finally pryed it loose... he's a strong old man!! haha...
 

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I would like to get a purolator pureone filter but i'm having no luck:( . Looks like for my first oil change i'm gonna have to get one from the dealer. If anyone has found something else out on a good quality aftermarket oil filter......please keep me informed:D .
 

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The Mopar filters are better quality than the cheap aftermarket ones. Pretty sure they are the same are the purolator ones. But don't quote me on that. there are only a few different companies that make oil filters. They just re-badge them depending on who the order is for. For instance, Wix and Purolator Purone are the same. Mobil1 and K&N are the same(cept the K&N has the 1" hex on the end)
 

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Update, with the recent truck shipment that went out to all Advance Auto Parts stores, the L12222 oil filter is now in stock. Though it is a maximum quantity of 2 right now, so be quick about getting one.
 

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Here's one more link and I'll let it go at that. This is one persons evaluation of the Ford oil filters (same as earlier Mopar 340/440 stuff). I can't imagine any different techniques between applications but that's just my opinion . I don't recommend the low end Wix or the NAPA Silver (same filter). I'll also be posting this over at the Compass forum. MOPAR to ya'

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/3837/oilfilst.html
 

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I'll keep waiting for a Mobil-1 oil filter, then I'll start changing my own oil.
Good luck. I tried emailing both K&N and Mobil1 about when they will be selling an oil filter for the Caliber and both replied with what seemed rather rude rsponses to me about them not having any plans to sell a oil filter for the Caliber. But I'm sure they will eventually.
 

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That's kinda crappy. I think that in a few years there will be a huge number of Calibers on the road. With priceing, popularity, and the rental car market there will be so many Calibers on the road we will make the P.T. cruiser look unique. LOL Plus this "world engine" will be used by other manufactors. If Mobil-1 and K&N are not willing to make a filter that would be their loss. Lets hope they get on the ball real soon.

Excuse my poor spelling
 

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Lighten up on the oil filters, any will do as long as you change the oil and filter regularly. Nothing wrong with fram and such. All it does is filter oil. The fancy expensive filters, filter oil, same thing. As long as the filter blocks particals over a certian size, any filter will do. They all meet or exceed mfg specs.

Lots of people neglect thier cars, and it breaks and they blame the filter.
If you follow the schedule for oil and filter changes, you will be fine.
A filter fails when its pushed beyond it service life which is far longer than the change interval.

Fools waste money on expensive filters and ones that advertise filters down to a smaller partical actually plug up and go into bypass (no filter at all) mode far faster than the normal filters. Also they tend to reduce the oil pressure to the engine too because the oil press regulator is before the filter in most engines.
All my cars have gone over 200,000 miles with just fram or generic store filters and have had no problems. We also have a fleat of over 200 service vehicles and as long as you maintain them, fancy filters net you NOTHING.

I'm sure some one will post a story about how someone they know, the filter broke or exploded or something like that and blame all Frams or generics, but when you have 90% of the market, thats all you hear. Bet on a percentage basis, there is no relability difference between a $2 fram and an 12 buck mobil 1 filter.
Hey, its your money, spend it how you like, but by a good oil its far better than a expensive filter.
 

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Any filter will not do. Cheap filters have been known to collapse internally causing partial or complete blockage and serious engine damage. As stated Fram has a large market share so yes more failures are bound to show up. I believe Fram also makes many of the other brands, just different names. However, take a Fram apart and compare the construction with a Mopar or Mobile 1 filter. Big difference. All filters are not the same and attempting to save a couple $'s to protect a several $1000 engine is absurd. I'll stick with Mopar.
 

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There is a study on oil filters floating around somewhere on the net. It compares most leading filters. I was surprised to see how crappy Fram filters are. There is another study on oil. Penzoil is the absolute worst oil there is. I'll look for these studies when I'm not at work.
 

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There is a study on oil filters floating around somewhere on the net. It compares most leading filters. I was surprised to see how crappy Fram filters are. There is another study on oil. Penzoil is the absolute worst oil there is. I'll look for these studies when I'm not at work.
For oil I prefer Mobile 1 but for non-synthetic I've had good results with valvoline.
 

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As it stands it looks like i'm gonna go with the Mopar filter and Mobil 1 5-20 synthetic...........wish they had the extended performance available.
 

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Lighten up on the oil filters, any will do as long as you change the oil and filter regularly. Nothing wrong with fram and such. All it does is filter oil. The fancy expensive filters, filter oil, same thing. As long as the filter blocks particals over a certian size, any filter will do. They all meet or exceed mfg specs.

Lots of people neglect thier cars, and it breaks and they blame the filter.
If you follow the schedule for oil and filter changes, you will be fine.
A filter fails when its pushed beyond it service life which is far longer than the change interval.

Fools waste money on expensive filters and ones that advertise filters down to a smaller partical actually plug up and go into bypass (no filter at all) mode far faster than the normal filters. Also they tend to reduce the oil pressure to the engine too because the oil press regulator is before the filter in most engines.
All my cars have gone over 200,000 miles with just fram or generic store filters and have had no problems. We also have a fleat of over 200 service vehicles and as long as you maintain them, fancy filters net you NOTHING.

I'm sure some one will post a story about how someone they know, the filter broke or exploded or something like that and blame all Frams or generics, but when you have 90% of the market, thats all you hear. Bet on a percentage basis, there is no relability difference between a $2 fram and an 12 buck mobil 1 filter.
Hey, its your money, spend it how you like, but by a good oil its far better than a expensive filter.
We are expected to believe all this from someone who actually thinks buying a Honda or Nissan is destroying America by not buying American. The only thing American about Chevrolet and Ford is that the CEOs and their headquarters are here in the US. My last vehicle came from Ford Motor Company and on the build sheet, only 20% of the total parts that made the vehicle were made in the US, Mexico, Canada and Japan were the majority share of the source of those parts.

So filters only fail when someone doesn't change their oil often enough? I have personally seen these "any cheap filter will do" oil filters fail under a high oil pressure cold start. Then add into the mix that most of the population still believes in the myth that as the car or truck gets older the grade of oil needs to get thicker, 20W50 or 40W oil in an engine that called for 5W30 factory, oil pressure is raised significantly at all points of engine operation. As far as the bypass valve, grab a Fram or Purolator catalog sometime and see how few filters actually have one. I saw this when I took measurements of the L12222 oil filter and looked to see if there were any other filters that would work that incorporated a higher bypass valve pressure. I used to use a CarQuest industrial oil filter on my Mazda, the BPV pressure was around 20-22 PSI, most standard filters go into bypass at 12 to 14 PSI. So that even on cold mornings I would always be filtering the oil, and the industrial filter gave me twice the filtering media and oil capacity of ANY filter every released for that car.

4 1/2 years running a 10-bay shop and ASE P2 Parts Specialist certified and I never once found an oil pressure regulator on a production automotive engine. There is an oil pressure sending unit, which sent data to two spots, an oil pressure gauge before it was removed from your standard dash because it scared the American public, the second place is the ECU. Yes the oil pressure sending unit is placed within the oil filter housing usually.

Find me a $2 Fram filter, never seen them under $3 unless a sale was going on.
 
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