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At one point stability control was posted as late delivered equipment. Any more news ? Thanks.
WTF? ESP is not that beneficial on a FWD vehicle to begin with, and the reason it is not available at this time, probably has more to do with availability of parts than anything else. Before this car, the only vehicles offered with ESP were RWD vehicles.K7AAY said:It helps us the consumer not at all.. until DC decides our lives are worth protecting, and makes it available for us to buy. Until then, I have no interest in this vehicle.
The Calibers ESP & Traction Control is still slated as TBD (to be determined) but I would assume they would become available along side the Compass. The Compass is expected 3rd quarter of 2006.Walter Tedman said:If it helps, Jeep Compass (same vehicle) will be built with ESP and "brake traction control" in all trim levels. Wouldn't be hard to integrate these with Caliber at any time. WBMT.
Thanks for the update Dan!DodgeInfoCenter said:The Calibers ESP & Traction Control is still slated as TBD (to be determined) but I would assume they would become available along side the Compass. The Compass is expected 3rd quarter of 2006.
Dan
http://www.safercar.gov/pages/ESC-EquippedVehicles-2005.htmTommyLee said:WTF? ESP is not that beneficial on a FWD vehicle to begin with, and the reason it is not available at this time, probably has more to do with availability of parts than anything else. Before this car, the only vehicles offered with ESP were RWD vehicles.
Lots of unsafe cars get sold. Exemplia gratii, Pintos (wanna buy a 4 wheel barbeque, kiddie?) sold like hotcakes into this market segment in the days of my youth.Not to minimize your concern, but the Caliber is doing just fine without this option.
Oddly enough, based on that list, Toyota doesn't give a damn about about the lives of xA or tC owners. And it's only optional on the Camry and Corolla. How dare they only protect the lives of those that can afford it!K7AAY said:I guess Toyota thinks the lives of Scion buyers are more important than DC thinks the lives of Caliber buyers are.
ESP makes quite a difference on any car with 4 wheels, no matter which wheels are pushing/pulling the car around.TommyLee said:WTF? ESP is not that beneficial on a FWD vehicle to begin with, and the reason it is not available at this time, probably has more to do with availability of parts than anything else. Before this car, the only vehicles offered with ESP were RWD vehicles.
Not to minimize your concern, but the Caliber is doing just fine without this option.
As for checking my stats before throwing out those statements, I was simply referring to the fact that the FWD setup, with most of the weight over the front wheels, is what provides FWD's with more traction and less need for ESP, or the like. RWD Cars like the 300/Magnum/Charger have roughly a 50/50 weight distribution, combined with ESP, to provide better traction than even FWD (due to ESP, I admit). DCX has offered traction control (not ESP) on many of their FWD cars for several years.GregoriusM said:ESP makes quite a difference on any car with 4 wheels, no matter which wheels are pushing/pulling the car around.
Check your information and stats before you throw out statements like ESP is not that beneficial on FWD cars.
ESP can be as simple as using a 4 line ABS system to brake one or more wheels at the right time to help correct the cars direction. What the driving wheels are doing at the time in this type of system has nothing to do with it. Where the front wheels are pointing does.
Greg